ESPN's Top Athlete Picks - Page 2

BtownBeers · June 27th, 2007, 11:43 AM

Holy poo ssigs and rusty agreed it may snow!

The definition right there leaves open the door for all sports persona to be athletes.

Ever watch an NFL lineman hit a golf ball? Thats typically hilarous.

BtownJay · June 27th, 2007, 11:48 AM

trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill.

How many of those does John Daily or Phil Mickelson have or need? Lets see..

1. Gifted in exercises - nope.
2. Contests involving physical agility - nope
3. involving stamina - nope
4. involving strength - nope
5. participant in a sport or game requiring physical skill - nope.

Rusty27 · June 27th, 2007, 11:53 AM

How many of those does John Daily or Phil Mickelson have or need? Lets see..
At a minimum....
1. Gifted in exercises - nope.
2. Contests involving physical agility - Yes
3. involving stamina - nope
4. involving strength - Yes
5. participant in a sport or game requiring physical skill - yes.

BtownJay · June 27th, 2007, 11:58 AM

swinging a club isn't exactly what they are talking about when saying "agility". A guy in a wheel chair can do that. And strength? Ask Jim Furyk about strengh needed, he has none. Or that 6 year old kid with one eye who they featured on ESPN the other week.

People can have whatever opinion they want... i'm just pointing out that golfers don't fit the definition of an athlete. But you can have a different definition if you want.

BtownBeers · June 27th, 2007, 12:07 PM

They do in fact fit the definition though...you make it sound like anyone can swing a golf club and be good at it. Whats your handicap? Fact is that physical qualities are needed to play golf...how good you are at it depends on how "atheltic" you are.

How hard is it to throw 10 - 20 pitches at a glove? Or to kick a ball off a tee?

BaldBil · June 27th, 2007, 12:13 PM

I have never considered golfers in general as athletes, although there are some good athletes that have been golfers. Tiger Wood is IMO the first really great athlete to excel at the pro game.

It is possible to be athletic in some things without being an athlete. Most of us have some athleticism yet we are not athletes.

whourdaddy · June 27th, 2007, 12:48 PM

Tiger is an athlete. What about baseball players? They aren't all athletes, take John Kruk

Rusty27 · June 27th, 2007, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BtownBeers

They do in fact fit the definition though...you make it sound like anyone can swing a golf club and be good at it. Whats your handicap? Fact is that physical qualities are needed to play golf...how good you are at it depends on how "atheltic" you are.

How hard is it to throw 10 - 20 pitches at a glove? Or to kick a ball off a tee?

Again agree.Eveyone else needs to stop making up their own personal degrees of physical exertion,stamina, and agility to qualify as an athlete and insisting theirs is the true definition.

BtownJay · June 27th, 2007, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty17

Again agree.Eveyone else needs to stop making up their own personal degrees of physical exertion,stamina, and agility to qualify as an athlete and insisting theirs is the true definition.

Why? And who is saying its the true definition?

We are giving our opinions of how the definition is interpretated. I see nothing wrong with disagreeing with each other. Seems pretty subjective to me.

Rusty27 · June 27th, 2007, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BtownJay

And who is saying its the true definition?

I thought you were when you said
i'm just pointing out that golfers don't fit the definition of an athlete. But you can have a different definition if you want.

If I'm confusing this for a mere opinion,then I stand corrected.

BtownBeers · June 27th, 2007, 01:43 PM

I too was under the impression that we were wrong in our assesment of an athelete vs. non-athlete by that statement.

BtownJay · June 27th, 2007, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty17

I thought you were when you said
i'm just pointing out that golfers don't fit the definition of an athlete. But you can have a different definition if you want.

If I'm confusing this for a mere opinion,then I stand corrected.

Wow... i could have worded that better. Honestly, i just meant that i didn't think golfers met the definition of athletes, but you can have the opinion that they do. Really, I totally understand how you guys can think differently.

BtownJay · June 27th, 2007, 01:52 PM

Its impossible to be right or wrong with this... its all interpretation (sp im sure).

Rusty27 · June 27th, 2007, 02:01 PM

Yeah,cause where do you draw the line at who is an athhlete? Pro sports and not pro sp

June 27th, 2007, 11:43 AM	#16
BtownBeers Join Date: 08-23-2004 Location: In Mrs. Jays Pants! Posts: 21,238	Holy poo ssigs and rusty agreed it may snow! The definition right there leaves open the door for all sports persona to be athletes. Ever watch an NFL lineman hit a golf ball? Thats typically hilarous.

June 27th, 2007, 11:48 AM	#17
BtownJay Join Date: 07-14-2004 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 27,667	trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill. How many of those does John Daily or Phil Mickelson have or need? Lets see.. 1. Gifted in exercises - nope. 2. Contests involving physical agility - nope 3. involving stamina - nope 4. involving strength - nope 5. participant in a sport or game requiring physical skill - nope.

June 27th, 2007, 11:53 AM	#18
Rusty27 Join Date: 07-15-2004 Location: Knoxville,Tenn. Posts: 26,985	How many of those does John Daily or Phil Mickelson have or need? Lets see.. At a minimum.... 1. Gifted in exercises - nope. 2. Contests involving physical agility - Yes 3. involving stamina - nope 4. involving strength - Yes 5. participant in a sport or game requiring physical skill - yes.

June 27th, 2007, 11:58 AM	#19
BtownJay Join Date: 07-14-2004 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 27,667	swinging a club isn't exactly what they are talking about when saying "agility". A guy in a wheel chair can do that. And strength? Ask Jim Furyk about strengh needed, he has none. Or that 6 year old kid with one eye who they featured on ESPN the other week. People can have whatever opinion they want... i'm just pointing out that golfers don't fit the definition of an athlete. But you can have a different definition if you want.

June 27th, 2007, 12:07 PM	#20
BtownBeers Join Date: 08-23-2004 Location: In Mrs. Jays Pants! Posts: 21,238	They do in fact fit the definition though...you make it sound like anyone can swing a golf club and be good at it. Whats your handicap? Fact is that physical qualities are needed to play golf...how good you are at it depends on how "atheltic" you are. How hard is it to throw 10 - 20 pitches at a glove? Or to kick a ball off a tee?

June 27th, 2007, 12:13 PM	#21
BaldBil Join Date: 06-15-2006 Location: Salem, MA Posts: 5,129	I have never considered golfers in general as athletes, although there are some good athletes that have been golfers. Tiger Wood is IMO the first really great athlete to excel at the pro game. It is possible to be athletic in some things without being an athlete. Most of us have some athleticism yet we are not athletes.

June 27th, 2007, 12:48 PM	#22
whourdaddy Join Date: 12-08-2005 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 3,719	Tiger is an athlete. What about baseball players? They aren't all athletes, take John Kruk

June 27th, 2007, 01:43 PM	#26
BtownBeers Join Date: 08-23-2004 Location: In Mrs. Jays Pants! Posts: 21,238	I too was under the impression that we were wrong in our assesment of an athelete vs. non-athlete by that statement.

June 27th, 2007, 01:52 PM	#28
BtownJay Join Date: 07-14-2004 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 27,667	Its impossible to be right or wrong with this... its all interpretation (sp im sure).

June 27th, 2007, 02:01 PM	#29
Rusty27 Join Date: 07-15-2004 Location: Knoxville,Tenn. Posts: 26,985	Yeah,cause where do you draw the line at who is an athhlete? Pro sports and not pro sp