Btownjay's top 10 pound for pound list... - Page 7

BtownJay · February 21st, 2006, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle F. Lewis

I really enjoyed the Wright-Soliman fight, but I think it showed that Wright could be succeptible to someone who has a outside-the-box style

FINALLY!!!!!! Someone else who doesn't think Winky is the next greatest boxer ever. Don't get me wrong Winky is a very good fighter, but he's so overrated its pathetic. He's so high in my rankings because he has not lost in 6 1/2 years. But he hasn't beaten any of the top fighters except for Felix Trinidad. He beat a blown up Mosley twice and pretty much all "B" level fighters becides that.

I think Jermain Taylor will finally give Winky his first loss in a while.

Kyle F. Lewis · February 21st, 2006, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BtownJay

FINALLY!!!!!! Someone else who doesn't think Winky is the next greatest boxer ever. Don't get me wrong Winky is a very good fighter, but he's so overrated its pathetic. He's so high in my rankings because he has not lost in 6 1/2 years. But he hasn't beaten any of the top fighters except for Felix Trinidad. He beat a blown up Mosley twice and pretty much all "B" level fighters becides that.

I think Jermain Taylor will finally give Winky his first loss in a while.

He's too reactive. He never presses the action, just plays defense and lands a counter punch here and there. He's just lucky Soloman doesn't have any power, otherwise he would have looked like a catcher's mitt after that fight

BtownJay · February 21st, 2006, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle F. Lewis

He's too reactive. He never presses the action, just plays defense and lands a counter punch here and there. He's just lucky Soloman doesn't have any power, otherwise he would have looked like a catcher's mitt after that fight

And thats exactly the same thing with his 2nd fight vs. Mosley. Winky only won that decision by 2 or 3 rounds and Shane got some great shots in. But again, Shane doesn't have much power at 154, not like he did at 135. Taylor can hit, and its going to be interesting to see how Winky reacts.

BtownJay · March 6th, 2006, 08:15 AM

**UPDATE 03/06/2006**

I must say, I can't remember a time where i've been more shocked over one weekends results before. Joe Calzaghe did what I personally didn't think was possible. He DESTROYED my #8 fighter Jeff Lacy. Joe was undefeated sure, but not many thought he was good enough to be all that close to Lacy, let alone make the fight look like USC vs. a high school team.

Also, my #5 Juan Marquez lost by unanimous decision to Chris John. Again, John was undefeated but had not fought near the caliber fighters that Marquez had. Talk about not knowing what the hell to do with my top 10 at this point. At 41-0 and a destruction of Lacy... Calzaghe has to move in.

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr - Fights Zab Judah 4/08
2. Marco A. Barrera - Fights Jesus Chavez 3/25 *postponed*
3. Winky Wright - Fights Jermain Taylor 6/17
4. Manny Pacquiao - Fights Oscar Larios 5/20
5. Jermain Taylor - Fights Winky Wright 6/17
6. Ricky Hatton - Beat Carlos Maussa 11/26
7. Jose Luis Castillo - Fights Louis Brown 04/01, & vs. Corrales 6/03
8. Joe Calzaghe - Beat Jeff Lacy 3/04
9. Juan M. Marquez - Lost to Chris John 3/04
10. Diego Corrales - Fights Jose Luis Castillo 6/03

Just out - Jeff Lacy, Chris John, Antonio Margarito, Antonio Tarver, James Toney, Oscar Larios, Zahir Raheem, Kostya Tszyu, Erik Morales

ssigman · March 6th, 2006, 08:57 AM

if toney beats rahman, does he move into the top 10??

BtownJay · March 6th, 2006, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ssigman

if toney beats rahman, does he move into the top 10??

No. And my reasoning...

His only wins in the last 10 years are against C+ to B fighters. And I can't count his win over Ruiz because its now rules a NC because of Toney testing positive for steroids. And Rahman isn't that big of a win either. Hasim is living off of his one punch KO of Lennix Lewis. Since that win, he got CRUSHED by Lewis, lost to a 400 year old Holyfield, and lost to Ruiz.

James Toney...
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=001437
Hasim Rahman...
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=006070

IMO the guys on my list have beaten MUCH better fighters thus far. BUT, Toney has the skill to be on the list, he just has to finally step up and fight the Byrds, Klitchko's, Valuevs.

ssigman · March 6th, 2006, 09:34 AM

makes sense....toney needs to just take the big fights already...i think he's got tons of talent..just he's just another dumb goon

BtownJay · March 6th, 2006, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ssigman

makes sense....toney needs to just take the big fights already...i think he's got tons of talent..just he's just another dumb goon

I agree 100%. IMO Toney will beat Chris Byrd and Nick Valuev and Wlad Klitchko. But i'm not using these rankings as "what do i think will happen". I'm basing it on what has happened so far.

Toney may be the 2nd most talented P4P fighter in the world (behind Mayweather). I just want him to show us!

ssigman · March 6th, 2006, 11:44 AM

no the rankings should be based on what is done, not what you think might happen...otherwise i'd have tyson as my #1 for his future comeback..where he turns into 1988 mike tyson again and mauls everyone put in front of him

BtownJay · May 9th, 2006, 10:33 AM

**UPDATE 05/09/2006**

Not much has happened since the last update. Floyd beat Judah (Judah suspended a year for his in ring actions). Acelino Freitas beat Zaheer Raheem, and Wlad Klitschko knocked Chris Byrd the F out. But May and June are going to be huge months to find out where everyone is. Some of the big fights i'm looking forward too...

5/13 - HBO - Ricky Hatton vs. Luis Collazo
5/20 - HBO - Marco Barrera vs. Rocky Juarez
6/03 - Shotime - Diego Corrales vs. Jose Luis Castillo
6/07 - ESPN2 - Ishe Smith vs. TBA
6/10 - HBO PPV - Antonio Tarver vs. Bernard Hopkins
6/10 - PPV? - Miguel Cotto vs. Paul Malignaggi
6/17 - HBO - Jermain Taylor vs. Winky Wright

Rankings...

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr - Beat Zab Judah 4/08
2. Marco A. Barrera - Fights Rocky Juarez 5/20
3. Winky Wright - Fights Jermain Taylor 6/17
4. Manny Pacquiao - Fights Oscar Larios 5/20, Erik Morales 9/16
5. Jermain Taylor - Fights Winky Wright 6/17
6. Ricky Hatton - Fights Luis Collazo 5/13
7. Jose Luis Castillo - Fights Corrales 6/03
8. Joe Calzaghe - Beat Jeff Lacy 3/04
9. Juan M. Marquez - Lost to Chris John 3/04
10. Diego Corrales - Fights Jose Luis Castillo 6/03

Just out - Jeff Lacy, Chris John, Antonio Margarito, Antonio Tarver, James Toney, Oscar Larios, Acelino Freitas, Kostya Tszyu, Erik Morales

BtownJay · January 15th, 2008, 09:54 AM

Wow... I forgot about this. Why not... Updated top 10 to start the year.

Updated 01/15/08...

1. Floyd Mayweather (destroyed Hatton)
2. Joe Calzaghe (vs. Hopkins 4/18)
3. Manny Pacquiao (vs. Juan Manuel Marquez 3/15)
4. Kelly Pavlik (vs. Jermain Taylor 2/16)
5. Bernard Hopkins (vs. Calzaghe 4/18)
6. Juan Manuel Marquez (vs. Pacquiao 3/15)
7. Juan Diaz (vs. Nate Campbell 3/8)
8. Miguel Cotto (beat Mosley)
9. Israel Vazquez (vs. Rafael Marquez 3/01 *rubber match*)
10. Rafael Marquez (see above)

ssigman · April 21st, 2008, 02:52 PM

jay...thoughts on calzaghe beating hopkins and cotto destroying alphonso gomez

BtownJay · April 21st, 2008, 03:18 PM

Ugh, Calzaghe/Hopkins. I can't wait for Hopkins to retire. His style made one of the most exciting fighters in the sport have a boring ass fight. Calzaghe tried to do what he could to hit him, but Bernard threw one punch then hung on for dear life. The decision was correct. Possible is Calzaghe vs. Jones Jr. Awesome.

Cotto/Gomez... pretty much exactly how I saw that one going. Gomez is many levels below Miguel... there isn't one thing he does better than Cotto. Well other than acting like a punching bag that is. I believe Cotto vs. Margarito is next... that should be a fun, good fight.

Also, looks like it will be Chad Dawson vs. Antonio Tarver next. That should be a good one as well.

March 6th, 2006, 08:15 AM	#94
BtownJay Join Date: 07-14-2004 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 28,884	UPDATE 03/06/2006 I must say, I can't remember a time where i've been more shocked over one weekends results before. Joe Calzaghe did what I personally didn't think was possible. He DESTROYED my #8 fighter Jeff Lacy. Joe was undefeated sure, but not many thought he was good enough to be all that close to Lacy, let alone make the fight look like USC vs. a high school team. Also, my #5 Juan Marquez lost by unanimous decision to Chris John. Again, John was undefeated but had not fought near the caliber fighters that Marquez had. Talk about not knowing what the hell to do with my top 10 at this point. At 41-0 and a destruction of Lacy... Calzaghe has to move in. 1. Floyd Mayweather Jr - Fights Zab Judah 4/08 2. Marco A. Barrera - Fights Jesus Chavez 3/25 postponed 3. Winky Wright - Fights Jermain Taylor 6/17 4. Manny Pacquiao - Fights Oscar Larios 5/20 5. Jermain Taylor - Fights Winky Wright 6/17 6. Ricky Hatton - Beat Carlos Maussa 11/26 7. Jose Luis Castillo - Fights Louis Brown 04/01, & vs. Corrales 6/03 8. Joe Calzaghe - Beat Jeff Lacy 3/04 9. Juan M. Marquez - Lost to Chris John 3/04 10. Diego Corrales - Fights Jose Luis Castillo 6/03 Just out - Jeff Lacy, Chris John, Antonio Margarito, Antonio Tarver, James Toney, Oscar Larios, Zahir Raheem, Kostya Tszyu, Erik Morales

March 6th, 2006, 08:57 AM	#95
ssigman Join Date: 03-15-2004 Posts: 28,059	if toney beats rahman, does he move into the top 10??

March 6th, 2006, 09:34 AM	#97
ssigman Join Date: 03-15-2004 Posts: 28,059	makes sense....toney needs to just take the big fights already...i think he's got tons of talent..just he's just another dumb goon

March 6th, 2006, 11:44 AM	#99
ssigman Join Date: 03-15-2004 Posts: 28,059	no the rankings should be based on what is done, not what you think might happen...otherwise i'd have tyson as my #1 for his future comeback..where he turns into 1988 mike tyson again and mauls everyone put in front of him

May 9th, 2006, 10:33 AM	#100
BtownJay Join Date: 07-14-2004 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 28,884	UPDATE 05/09/2006 Not much has happened since the last update. Floyd beat Judah (Judah suspended a year for his in ring actions). Acelino Freitas beat Zaheer Raheem, and Wlad Klitschko knocked Chris Byrd the F out. But May and June are going to be huge months to find out where everyone is. Some of the big fights i'm looking forward too... 5/13 - HBO - Ricky Hatton vs. Luis Collazo 5/20 - HBO - Marco Barrera vs. Rocky Juarez 6/03 - Shotime - Diego Corrales vs. Jose Luis Castillo 6/07 - ESPN2 - Ishe Smith vs. TBA 6/10 - HBO PPV - Antonio Tarver vs. Bernard Hopkins 6/10 - PPV? - Miguel Cotto vs. Paul Malignaggi 6/17 - HBO - Jermain Taylor vs. Winky Wright Rankings... 1. Floyd Mayweather Jr - Beat Zab Judah 4/08 2. Marco A. Barrera - Fights Rocky Juarez 5/20 3. Winky Wright - Fights Jermain Taylor 6/17 4. Manny Pacquiao - Fights Oscar Larios 5/20, Erik Morales 9/16 5. Jermain Taylor - Fights Winky Wright 6/17 6. Ricky Hatton - Fights Luis Collazo 5/13 7. Jose Luis Castillo - Fights Corrales 6/03 8. Joe Calzaghe - Beat Jeff Lacy 3/04 9. Juan M. Marquez - Lost to Chris John 3/04 10. Diego Corrales - Fights Jose Luis Castillo 6/03 Just out - Jeff Lacy, Chris John, Antonio Margarito, Antonio Tarver, James Toney, Oscar Larios, Acelino Freitas, Kostya Tszyu, Erik Morales

January 15th, 2008, 09:54 AM	#101
BtownJay Join Date: 07-14-2004 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 28,884	Wow... I forgot about this. Why not... Updated top 10 to start the year. Updated 01/15/08... 1. Floyd Mayweather (destroyed Hatton) 2. Joe Calzaghe (vs. Hopkins 4/18) 3. Manny Pacquiao (vs. Juan Manuel Marquez 3/15) 4. Kelly Pavlik (vs. Jermain Taylor 2/16) 5. Bernard Hopkins (vs. Calzaghe 4/18) 6. Juan Manuel Marquez (vs. Pacquiao 3/15) 7. Juan Diaz (vs. Nate Campbell 3/8) 8. Miguel Cotto (beat Mosley) 9. Israel Vazquez (vs. Rafael Marquez 3/01 rubber match) 10. Rafael Marquez (see above)

April 21st, 2008, 02:52 PM	#102
ssigman Join Date: 03-15-2004 Posts: 28,059	jay...thoughts on calzaghe beating hopkins and cotto destroying alphonso gomez

April 21st, 2008, 03:18 PM	#103
BtownJay Join Date: 07-14-2004 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 28,884	Ugh, Calzaghe/Hopkins. I can't wait for Hopkins to retire. His style made one of the most exciting fighters in the sport have a boring ass fight. Calzaghe tried to do what he could to hit him, but Bernard threw one punch then hung on for dear life. The decision was correct. Possible is Calzaghe vs. Jones Jr. Awesome. Cotto/Gomez... pretty much exactly how I saw that one going. Gomez is many levels below Miguel... there isn't one thing he does better than Cotto. Well other than acting like a punching bag that is. I believe Cotto vs. Margarito is next... that should be a fun, good fight. Also, looks like it will be Chad Dawson vs. Antonio Tarver next. That should be a good one as well.