Reinstate Pete Rose Now - Page 2

Mike · October 31st, 2006, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ssigman

he doesn't want back into baseball...he wants his rightful place in the hall....and that he deserves cause that is based on what he did as a player...what he did as a manager should have no bearing to what he did as a player....and as a player, he's a hof'er no doubt...baseball should do the right thing and allow him his spot there....

Dude that is it!! You hit it! HOMERUN! That should be my story in that one statement!

ssigman · October 31st, 2006, 12:48 PM

yes..i totally put 50 bucks down that i'd knock that post out of the park

Rusty27 · October 31st, 2006, 12:48 PM

Too bad your bat was corked.

BaldBil · October 31st, 2006, 12:50 PM

Baseball is the only HOF with a morals clause written into the criteria. In spite of this there are more than a few who are in who were not morally upright men. That being said I do not support Rose going into the hall until he comes completely clean. He has admitted betting on baseball but denies ever betting on a game he was involved in. When he does admit that in public and without equivacation I will rethink this.

Gunnerman · October 31st, 2006, 12:52 PM

Very thoughtful Bil and I agree with your statement.

Here is my last thought on this subject, Joe Jackson and the Black Sox never got back into baseball neither should Rose.

Mike · October 31st, 2006, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunnerman

Very thoughtful Bil and I agree with your statement.

Here is my last thought on this subject, Joe Jackson and the Black Sox never got back into baseball neither should Rose.

Yes but those Black Sox were players, not a manager

Rose did this as a manager, not his accomplishments as a player

ssigman · October 31st, 2006, 12:54 PM

lets just say he didn't bet on his team but bet on baseball....and he admits this...and mlb then comes out and shows all the evidence they have and none of it says he bet on his own team....can we allow him to be in hof then?? cause he admitted to betting but mlb has never shown anything they have

Gunnerman · October 31st, 2006, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

Yes but those Black Sox were players, not a manager

Rose did this as a manager, not his accomplishments as a player

Don't matter, he was still acting as a paid professional in a Major League Baseball uniform, he gave the integrity of the game the middle finger I am more than happy to see baseball give it back to him.

BaldBil · October 31st, 2006, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunnerman

Very thoughtful Bil and I agree with your statement.

Here is my last thought on this subject, Joe Jackson and the Black Sox never got back into baseball neither should Rose.

Thats right. Joe Jackson's only crime in this was he was offered money and didn't take it. He claimed that he told the manager and that the owner(Comiskey) was fully aware of what he told the manager. Comiskey by the way is in the HOF.

Mike · October 31st, 2006, 12:59 PM

Maybe to you it doesn't matter! But I would bet there is a majority of fans that think differently!

ssigman · October 31st, 2006, 01:00 PM

i still stand by my statement 100%

BtownJay · October 31st, 2006, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BaldBil

Thats right. Joe Jackson's only crime in this was he was offered money and didn't take it.

Really? I swore he took the money but didn't throw the games (which is obviouls looking at his numbers)

Gunnerman · October 31st, 2006, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

Maybe to you it doesn't matter! But I would bet there is a majority of fans that think differently!

I don't disagree with that statement at all Meik. One of the beauties of sport is that fans can have differing opinions on matters such as these and debate the worth and merits of these issues.

If at some later date the HOF does decide to let in Rose then that is their decision I will not nor ever agree with it but them's the breaks.

BaldBil · October 31st, 2006, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BtownJay

Really? I swore he took the money but didn't throw the games (which is obviouls looking at his numbers)

My memory may be faulty here I haven't looked at the facts in quite a while. I believe he did not take the money.

October 31st, 2006, 12:48 PM	#17
ssigman Join Date: 03-15-2004 Posts: 27,970	yes..i totally put 50 bucks down that i'd knock that post out of the park

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Rusty27 Join Date: 07-15-2004 Location: Knoxville,Tenn. Posts: 29,241	Too bad your bat was corked.

October 31st, 2006, 12:50 PM	#19
BaldBil Join Date: 06-15-2006 Location: Salem, MA Posts: 5,440	Baseball is the only HOF with a morals clause written into the criteria. In spite of this there are more than a few who are in who were not morally upright men. That being said I do not support Rose going into the hall until he comes completely clean. He has admitted betting on baseball but denies ever betting on a game he was involved in. When he does admit that in public and without equivacation I will rethink this.

October 31st, 2006, 12:52 PM	#20
Gunnerman Join Date: 04-01-2004 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,519	Very thoughtful Bil and I agree with your statement. Here is my last thought on this subject, Joe Jackson and the Black Sox never got back into baseball neither should Rose.

October 31st, 2006, 12:54 PM	#22
ssigman Join Date: 03-15-2004 Posts: 27,970	lets just say he didn't bet on his team but bet on baseball....and he admits this...and mlb then comes out and shows all the evidence they have and none of it says he bet on his own team....can we allow him to be in hof then?? cause he admitted to betting but mlb has never shown anything they have

October 31st, 2006, 12:59 PM	#25
Mike Join Date: 07-08-2002 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 10,816	Maybe to you it doesn't matter! But I would bet there is a majority of fans that think differently!

October 31st, 2006, 01:00 PM	#26
ssigman Join Date: 03-15-2004 Posts: 27,970	i still stand by my statement 100%