Nebraska gutless??

[jtg33]

Okay, let's get one thing straight to begin with. I was talking only about the last decade of games between Nebraska and Colorado, not all-time. My point was that, in the past ten meetings, CU has played Nebraska in much tighter, much closer games. Even before Frank Solich, in the "glory years" for the Huskers, Colorado was playing at a higher level and pushing Nebraska to the edge in almost every game.

Since you asked for some history, I'll give you some:

Colorado versus Nebraska: A History

Series: Nebraska leads 45-16-2

I have never denied that Nebraska owns Colorado historically. That's a plain and simple fact.

First Meeting: 1898 (Nebraska 23, Colorado 10)

Both teams have had good runs against one another. Colorado's best stretch against Nebraska took place from 1948 to 1961, when the Buffaloes went 8-5-1 against the Corn. Nebraska has a much more impressive streak against CU, when the CornHuskers pounded CU almost non-stop from 1962 to 1988, compiling a record of 25-2-0 in that time.

The average margin of victory, all-time, is 16.46 points per game. In their 16 victories, Colorado has won by an average of 12.38 points, while Nebraska has prevailed by 17.91 points in their 45 victories.

Now before the 1988 season, the average margin of victory was 18.13 points per game. Since 1988, however, the average margin of victory has dwindled to 11.75 points per game.

Throughout the overall series, at the end of the day the teams have been separated by 9 points or less 18 times, and by ten points or more 45 times. Now pay attention, because this is where it gets a little more complicated. Before 1988 (46 games) CU and Nebraska were separated by 9 points or less only 7 times, but in the 17 games since then they have been separated by 9 or less 11 times.

That's about 65% of the time since 1988 that the games have ended single-digits apart, as opposed to only 15% of the time prior to 1988.

What's the point of all these numbers? It ties in to my overall point: Colorado has been playing Nebraska tougher in the past decade (and the past 17 years overall). There is a pattern to all this, and it indicates that the games between Nebraska and Colorado are growing closer. I'll try and make this look a bit more organized now:

CU versus Nebraska since 1988:
Series: Nebraska leads 11-5-1

Average margin of victory: 11.75 points (18.13 points before 1988)

Difference of 9 points or less in final score: 11 times, or 65% (7 times before, only 15%)

Average margin of victory for Nebraska: 10.9 points (7.01 points below historical average)

So you can take that whatever way you'd like it. All I'm saying is that over the past decade plus, Colorado has played Nebraska much more tightly. It's not Frank Solich that has caused this; it's the two programs as a whole.

[Raider Assassin]

Dam jtg,I have to give you your props dude,that was one hellva NU-CU football history lesson. The only thing that differ with you on is that even though CU played NU tougher over the past 10 years or so,NU still had enough overall team talent to win those games and it was based on coaching and recruiting of which Osborne was great at both.Tide started to change when dumb ass Solich took over because based on his coaching and recruiting ability or lack there of,NU was no longer able to win those close games and it was due largely because the talent level declined during the 5-6 years that Solich was there.Now with Callahan coming in,the talent level of incoming recruits for 2005 is already better than what Solich was able to recruit in a 5-6 year period.Anyway,good post dude,you're an alright dude and you're cool with me,late.

[jtg33]

Alright, just as long as we're straightened out on all that. Thanks for the props, I appreciate it.

You're absolutely right, Nebraska has had the talent edge over Colorado in each of those meetings. Why the games have been so close, I haven't got a clue. Perhaps Colorado elevates its game to face the CornHuskers, perhaps Nebraska has loosened up in its play at that time of year (which I actually seriously doubt).

Even when Solich was in charge of Nebraska, CU was still lagging in recruiting and talent - let's face it, Rick Neuheisel and Gary Barnett really can't recruit worth a damn. So now that Callahan is bringing in a lot of these top-tier recruits, everything will likely swing back in favor of Nebraska again. I guess that's just how it goes sometimes, eh?

[Insanity]

I hate to bring up a week-old thread, but since I was out of town I can't resist commenting on this.

I have to say what I've said before. There is no excuse for a top tier college football program to schedule a 1-AA opponent. That's why I have no sympathy for Auburn this year. It just shouldn't happen.

But then again, you could also make the argument right now about whether or not Nebraska is a top tier program...

[Raider Assassin]

Seeing as NU had 5-6 record this year,I don't see where there should be any doubt that they aren't currently a top tier program.When you're rebuilding a program,you as the AD and/or coach do whatever is neccessary to rebuild in stages which is accomplished by scheduling weaker teams and recruiting until such time as you've got the program back to what it once was.I don't see that it makes a dam bit of difference that you schedule D-1AA foes because once you start conference play and you start to play tougher opponents,it will show whether or not your team is worth a shit.In the years when NU scheduled weak teams and all the crybabies were hollering about their weak schedule,it made no difference because they still kicked ass when they got into conference play and to the NC games,so all this uproar about scheduling 1-AA teams is a bunch of irrelivent BS,because the true quality of your team will reveal itself in the end.

[focal22]

so when will Miami, FSU, OU start rebuilding??

[OriginalBob]

Focal; you know Raider won't answer you. He has no comeback.

It will take more than Callahan giving blow jobs to recruits for NU to come back.
Maybe they should move to Division II..

[focal22]

Originally Posted by OriginalBob

Focal; you know Raider won't answer you. He has no comeback.

It will take more than Callahan giving blow jobs to recruits for NU to come back.
Maybe they should move to Division II..

i didn't mean it to sound like a prick just seems like FSU and Miami have been good for years. but they too probably had crap seasons at one time or another.

[Raider Assassin]

Bob,dude you're just pissed because USC treated OU like the misfit team that they showed they were and thet're the ones that should switch to division II based on the shameful performance they subjected the entire nation to last night.Maybe Stoops should have given his players a blow job,hell maybe he did which might explain the wuse like performance they displayed in that game.More our grapes because your over rated Sooners got the shit kicked out of them two years running.

Focal,if you recall in the not to distant past,Miami had it's down years after Johnson left and all the player scandals which cause them to be down for a couple years.As for FSU,their program hasn't dipped to the levels of NU,Miami or OU,but the program isn't what it once was either because they're no longer in the running for NC recognition as they once were in terms yearly top five rankings.As for OU,ask Bob how pathetic there were before Stoops got there and how many losing seasons they endured before the Stoops era,they were no where to be found in the upper levels of collegiate football.This current rebuilding stage that NU is experiencing is the first in 40 years,so they were about due.

One other thing Bob,don't ever make the mistake of thinking that I don't have a comeback,because there's not fucking thing on earth that anyone can throw at me that I won't have a comeback for,so let that be a word to the wise and something that you should keep in mind when you come at me,I'm never at a loss when comes to retaliation.

[OriginalBob]

Originally Posted by Raider Assassin

Bob,dude you're just pissed because USC treated OU like the misfit team that they showed they were and thet're the ones that should switch to division II based on the shameful performance they subjected the entire nation to last night.Maybe Stoops should have given his players a blow job,hell maybe he did which might explain the wuse like performance they displayed in that game.More our grapes because your over rated Sooners got the shit kicked out of them two years running.
Hey the better team won! USC can kick anyones ass, including the Raiders!
The overated Sooners still won the Big 12. Last year I believe LSU won 21 - 14, that my friend does not constitute a shit kickin.
Like I said before, I'll live whether they win or lose.

As for OU,ask Bob how pathetic there were before Stoops got there and how many losing seasons they endured before the Stoops era,they were no where to be found in the upper levels of collegiate football.This current rebuilding stage that NU is experiencing is the first in 40 years,so they were about due.
The only time OU was down is when your coach, John Blake was the coach there. 3 years.

One other thing Bob,don't ever make the mistake of thinking that I don't have a comeback,because there's not fucking thing on earth that anyone can throw at me that I won't have a comeback for,so let that be a word to the wise and something that you should keep in mind when you come at me,I'm never at a loss when comes to retaliation.
I'm talking about a real comeback. Not one that refers to faggots, mamas asses and other things that refer to the other's insecurity..

I hope the Cornhuskers are the champs again, then OU will have some competition in the Big 12...

[HuskerPower]

Bob don't lose control of reality here. You can go back less than 10 years to find OU down in the shitter. Then they got a new coach and came back to the top. Now you're acting like it can't be done in any other program. Let me leave you with a quote from a member of the #1 recruiting class in the nation, Craig Roark (also a top 5 recruit in the state of Oklahoma, and yes for those of you counting, we have 2 and soon to be 3 verbals from the top 5 players in Sooner country)....

"I think we will go to a bowl game every year I'm there," Roark said. "I think we'll play in at least two BCS bowl games by the time I leave there and play in at least three conference championship games. I think we'll get up to at least the eight win mark again by next year. I think I'll win a National Championship while I'm at Nebraska...I really do."

We will be back.