John McCain criticizing Obama on Military Service - Page 4

Shane · May 28th, 2008, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BtownBeers

Well said Andy.

Shane, while I respect your thoughts and ideals if you will, I don't fully agree that the government gets a pass for what it has and will continue to do to this country.

I don't think they should get a "pass" either. I am just not going to count on them to take care of anything that I can accomplish on my own. I choose to control my own destiny.

Shane · May 28th, 2008, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty27

I just think Obama is the only decent choice.I wish the Republicans had a decent canditate too and I really thought I liked and would vote for McCain,but the more I hear from him the more I am realizing he's really not that bright and it will be another four years of the status quo.

I don't like any of them. I like Hillary less than the other two, but that still doesn't make this an easy election.

I have this sickening feeling that no matter what, it is going to be four years of "You have GOT to be kidding me".

Rusty27 · May 28th, 2008, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane

I don't like any of them. I like Hillary less than the other two, but that still doesn't make this an easy election.

I have this sickening feeling that no matter what, it is going to be four years of "You have GOT to be kidding me".

LOL! and agreed.

Shane · May 28th, 2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ssigman

well i'm no obama supporter...not in the least..wanting to talk to other leaders such as the shah and the north korean dude isn't going to work...diplomacy with these people is ineffective....along with the fact that obama wants to redeploy our troops in iraq to afghanistan leaving iraq open for the taking and putting more of our troops into another country....yes afghanistan is the hotbed but as shown earlier, you can't win that war..see the soviet union

anyway...i don't feel you need to serve your country to be an effective leader...what you say shane can be taken the opposite way...what if a military guy knows nothing of economics of example...should it be required that he graduates with a masters in that field? what about environment? should he have spent 5 years minimum learning all about that and doing field work?? you're never going to get a person who knows all..the checks and balances are there..if we didn't want to go into iraq, congress could of turned it down...it's ultimately there decision...yea we got bad intel from our president but do you think he acted alone in that??

All good points. I don't really know what to think about the war in Afghanistan. We are not at war with them as a nation like the Russians were, but we are at war IN their nation, which is complimicated. I am assuming it is not going well, since Iraq has been used as a smokescreen for many years.

I think it would be great to have a President with a military background, who is also educated in things like economics, etc. It would also be nice to have an oversized jacuzzi tub and my own personal bathing assistant who happens to look exactly like Robyn Chance, but the odds are slim. Oh, to live in a perfect world.

I should also mention that just because someone is educated, it doesn't make them smart (see George W. Bush), but we all knew that I think.

On Bush and the bad intel, no way did he act alone, but he was the ring leader. Rumsfeld, Rice and a slew of other keystone cops had a hand in it. Scott McClellan is the latest to open up about it, and the White House is trying to spin it like the unaccountable sons of bitches that they are.

McClellan latest White House figure to leave and tell - CNN.com

BtownBeers · May 29th, 2008, 10:02 AM

You may choose to control your own destiny, but what the government puts in front of you doesn't always allow that.

ssigman · May 29th, 2008, 10:38 AM

oh to have a life where you have a jacuzzi and robyn

Shane · May 29th, 2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BtownBeers

You may choose to control your own destiny, but what the government puts in front of you doesn't always allow that.

I would have to disagree. As long as I don't break any of mans laws, the government cannot dictate my, or anyone elses destiny.

BtownBeers · May 30th, 2008, 10:27 AM

Ugh, you're taking the "destiny" aspect too literally, forget it.

Rusty27 · May 30th, 2008, 11:28 AM

our destiny is paying taxes.

ssigman · May 30th, 2008, 01:13 PM

and dying

May 29th, 2008, 10:02 AM	#50
BtownBeers Skull Fucker Wannabeeee! Join Date: 08-23-2004 Location: In Mrs. Jays Pants! Posts: 23,864 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	You may choose to control your own destiny, but what the government puts in front of you doesn't always allow that. __________________ As someone who has been on both ends of a loaded weapon I can only wish you well in your idealized little vision of what the world should be; I will continue to deal the world as it really is. -BaldBil

May 30th, 2008, 10:27 AM	#53
BtownBeers Skull Fucker Wannabeeee! Join Date: 08-23-2004 Location: In Mrs. Jays Pants! Posts: 23,864 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	Ugh, you're taking the "destiny" aspect too literally, forget it. __________________ As someone who has been on both ends of a loaded weapon I can only wish you well in your idealized little vision of what the world should be; I will continue to deal the world as it really is. -BaldBil

May 30th, 2008, 11:28 AM	#54
Rusty27 Good ol' Rocky Top;Rocky Top,Tennessee Join Date: 07-15-2004 Location: Knoxville,Tenn. Posts: 31,427 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	our destiny is paying taxes. __________________