Rutgers Football 2007 - Page 2

karasz411 · August 14th, 2007, 09:29 AM

it should be noted sig's that the Big East as a whole was 5-0 last bowl season. and I dont care what anyone says, if Rutgers won out last season they were playing OSU for the national title.

Other things that would have happened:
Pigs would have flown, hell would have called and asked for jackets, and Ray Rice would be hanging out with his heisman trophy.

Oh and the world would have ended.

I have Louis, WV, Rutgers in that order for the BE. It really isn't fair how 3rd BE gets such a shitty bowl game, whereas 3rd Big10 gets Capital One Bowl.

I would love to see the Bowls do away with the conference deals, or at least the BCS. I just don't like the Rose Bowl always being PAC-10 Big 10 i know recent years it hasn't been (05 USC-Texas, 04 Michigan-Texas) Or the Big 12 winner in the Orange, SEC in sugar.

I just like variety which is why i really really wish they'd get that 6 team playoff goin

BtownJay · August 14th, 2007, 10:24 AM

First let me say that i don't mean to knock the Big East. I have nothing against the conference, and agree they should be a BCS conference.

That said, no team in the Big East plays near as tough a schedule as any team in the Big 10. A Big 10 vs. Big East thing, like they do in college basketball with the ACC vs. Big 10, would be a one sided whooping by the Big 10. So I do understand why they get the better bowl games. Not to mention they are a bigger draw in ratings right now. Once the Big East can do something to change that, then the bowls may change who plays where.

Rusty27 · August 14th, 2007, 10:30 AM

And these bowl sites want teams that are going to draw more people to their cities such as Big Ten and SEC schools do. Again,the Big East has a ways to go.

ssigman · August 15th, 2007, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BtownJay

First let me say that i don't mean to knock the Big East. I have nothing against the conference, and agree they should be a BCS conference.

That said, no team in the Big East plays near as tough a schedule as any team in the Big 10. A Big 10 vs. Big East thing, like they do in college basketball with the ACC vs. Big 10, would be a one sided whooping by the Big 10. So I do understand why they get the better bowl games. Not to mention they are a bigger draw in ratings right now. Once the Big East can do something to change that, then the bowls may change who plays where.

i refer you to last years game between big 10 and big east

Rutgers 33 - 0 Illinois

Syracuse 31-21 Illinois

Iowa 20 - 13 Syracuse (2OT)

seems even to me...if you match up the best, i think its close..i'll give the big 10 the nod for now though

louisville vs michigan

west virginia vs ohio state

rutgers vs wisconsin

ssigman · August 15th, 2007, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty17

And these bowl sites want teams that are going to draw more people to their cities such as Big Ten and SEC schools do. Again,the Big East has a ways to go.

the big east might of had the most national games on espn last year...its not by accident that it was done that way....the rutgers/louisville game was probabably the game of the year..if you have a better one, i'll listen

ssigman · August 15th, 2007, 10:40 AM

big east vs. big ten this year

pitt vs. michigan state 9/15

syracuse vs. iowa 9/08

syracuse vs. illinois 9/15

not very exciting but let's see what happens

BtownJay · August 15th, 2007, 10:46 AM

lol, Illinois was almost a division 2 team last season going a great 2-10. They hardly count.

Sure, the top 3 Big 10 teams are close with W. Virginia and Louisville... but are all better than Rutgers.

And then what? The rest of the Big East is really weak after that, and will lose to most of the remaining Big 10 teams. S. Florida's non conference schedule was laughable. And Cincy had one good win vs. Rutgers.

Like I said before, i don't want to bash the conference because I think they are going to get better... but they really are well below the Big 10.

ssigman · August 15th, 2007, 12:32 PM

i just don't agree with that....you got michigan, ohio state and wisconsin up top but after that you have the likes of northwestern, purdue, illinois and indiana...they aren't any better than south florida, pittsburgh or cincinatti

BtownJay · August 15th, 2007, 12:35 PM

Penn State, Purdue, Iowa, Minnesota and most years Michigan State are better than S. Florida (what have they ever done?) and Cincy. Sure Pitt has had a few good years.

But of course you pick N.wester, Indiana and Illinois, they are the worst 3 in the conference.

ssigman · August 15th, 2007, 03:06 PM

south florida is relatively new to 1A ball and they won a bowl game last year...minnesota is shit...purdue is no better than middle of the road big east...iowa is shaky with no qb, penn state ok...most years..i didn't realize we were talking all time conferences..then yea big 10..but i'm talking last year and this year

ssigman · August 27th, 2007, 11:50 AM

bump! 1st game is this thursday



	Aug 30, 2007 Buffalo, 7:00 pm

BtownJay · August 27th, 2007, 11:57 AM

Speaking of Rutgers, did you see Leonards run and jump against the Raiders this weekend? He totally went airborn over the one defender.

ssigman · August 27th, 2007, 12:15 PM

we like to call that the leonard leap....hopefully the nfl learns of that quickly or he'll be leaping his way to the hof soon

ssigmanstinks · August 30th, 2007, 09:32 PM

Not a bad showing, too bad Rice "only" ran for 185 and couldn't get those extra 16 yards....

August 14th, 2007, 09:29 AM	#16
karasz411 Join Date: 02-02-2006 Location: philly Posts: 440	it should be noted sig's that the Big East as a whole was 5-0 last bowl season. and I dont care what anyone says, if Rutgers won out last season they were playing OSU for the national title. Other things that would have happened: Pigs would have flown, hell would have called and asked for jackets, and Ray Rice would be hanging out with his heisman trophy. Oh and the world would have ended. I have Louis, WV, Rutgers in that order for the BE. It really isn't fair how 3rd BE gets such a shitty bowl game, whereas 3rd Big10 gets Capital One Bowl. I would love to see the Bowls do away with the conference deals, or at least the BCS. I just don't like the Rose Bowl always being PAC-10 Big 10 i know recent years it hasn't been (05 USC-Texas, 04 Michigan-Texas) Or the Big 12 winner in the Orange, SEC in sugar. I just like variety which is why i really really wish they'd get that 6 team playoff goin

August 14th, 2007, 10:24 AM	#17
BtownJay Join Date: 07-14-2004 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 28,779	First let me say that i don't mean to knock the Big East. I have nothing against the conference, and agree they should be a BCS conference. That said, no team in the Big East plays near as tough a schedule as any team in the Big 10. A Big 10 vs. Big East thing, like they do in college basketball with the ACC vs. Big 10, would be a one sided whooping by the Big 10. So I do understand why they get the better bowl games. Not to mention they are a bigger draw in ratings right now. Once the Big East can do something to change that, then the bowls may change who plays where.

August 14th, 2007, 10:30 AM	#18
Rusty27 Join Date: 07-15-2004 Location: Knoxville,Tenn. Posts: 29,110	And these bowl sites want teams that are going to draw more people to their cities such as Big Ten and SEC schools do. Again,the Big East has a ways to go.

August 15th, 2007, 10:40 AM	#21
ssigman Join Date: 03-15-2004 Posts: 27,970	big east vs. big ten this year pitt vs. michigan state 9/15 syracuse vs. iowa 9/08 syracuse vs. illinois 9/15 not very exciting but let's see what happens

August 15th, 2007, 10:46 AM	#22
BtownJay Join Date: 07-14-2004 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 28,779	lol, Illinois was almost a division 2 team last season going a great 2-10. They hardly count. Sure, the top 3 Big 10 teams are close with W. Virginia and Louisville... but are all better than Rutgers. And then what? The rest of the Big East is really weak after that, and will lose to most of the remaining Big 10 teams. S. Florida's non conference schedule was laughable. And Cincy had one good win vs. Rutgers. Like I said before, i don't want to bash the conference because I think they are going to get better... but they really are well below the Big 10.

August 15th, 2007, 12:32 PM	#23
ssigman Join Date: 03-15-2004 Posts: 27,970	i just don't agree with that....you got michigan, ohio state and wisconsin up top but after that you have the likes of northwestern, purdue, illinois and indiana...they aren't any better than south florida, pittsburgh or cincinatti

August 15th, 2007, 12:35 PM	#24
BtownJay Join Date: 07-14-2004 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 28,779	Penn State, Purdue, Iowa, Minnesota and most years Michigan State are better than S. Florida (what have they ever done?) and Cincy. Sure Pitt has had a few good years. But of course you pick N.wester, Indiana and Illinois, they are the worst 3 in the conference.

August 15th, 2007, 03:06 PM	#25
ssigman Join Date: 03-15-2004 Posts: 27,970	south florida is relatively new to 1A ball and they won a bowl game last year...minnesota is shit...purdue is no better than middle of the road big east...iowa is shaky with no qb, penn state ok...most years..i didn't realize we were talking all time conferences..then yea big 10..but i'm talking last year and this year

August 27th, 2007, 11:57 AM	#27
BtownJay Join Date: 07-14-2004 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 28,779	Speaking of Rutgers, did you see Leonards run and jump against the Raiders this weekend? He totally went airborn over the one defender.

August 27th, 2007, 12:15 PM	#28
ssigman Join Date: 03-15-2004 Posts: 27,970	we like to call that the leonard leap....hopefully the nfl learns of that quickly or he'll be leaping his way to the hof soon

August 30th, 2007, 09:32 PM	#29
ssigmanstinks Join Date: 12-28-2004 Posts: 3,433	Not a bad showing, too bad Rice "only" ran for 185 and couldn't get those extra 16 yards....