NASCAR is not a sport, it's marketing - Page 2

Rusty27 · April 11th, 2006, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by karasz411

The definition blows cuz then i can make everything a sport. Basically, any competition with rules. Well, it does say Physical activity, I've driven before, i don't think its that physical, nor is chess, poker or horse racing. All of which I have done numerous times without really believing I had just participated in a sport.

Can I ask you what race was it that you saw where just the driver was involved in the process?I've never seen one.

karasz411 · April 11th, 2006, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty17

Can I ask you what race was it that you saw where just the driver was involved in the process?I've never seen one.

I've raced my friends before. granted we werent going 125 on turns, but then again we dont wanna die either. So no I've never seen a race with just 1 driver, but it doesn't change the fact that the car/horse is doing most of the work, along with the fact that the 'athlete' is just sitting there.

KP · April 11th, 2006, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OriginalBob

KP....
We'll have to discuss NASCAR as a sport when you come up here and drink some dickel with me!!!!

Uh, I'll need a definition of dickel, first....

BtownBeers · April 11th, 2006, 03:01 PM

200 MPH on a track with 25+ other cars doing the same is no walk in the park...couple that with a competent pit crew that keeps you in the race I think this is as much of a sport as any. I mean in golf or baseball an external object such as a glove, bat, or club is needed to do the sport so does that make them less of a sport?

karasz411 · April 11th, 2006, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BtownBeers

I mean in golf or baseball an external object such as a glove, bat, or club is needed to do the sport so does that make them less of a sport?

Not at all, a ball is also needed in most sports. It's not the extra equipment that makes or breaks a sport. What I'm saying is, that driving isn't. I understand, they are going 200+ mph, with great risk to their own life and safety. In fact, the most beloved member died just 2 or 3 years ago in the biggest race of the year.

But, they are driving. I understand it's 4 times as fast as what most persons have ever driven. along with it being 130 in the car. And I understand that, but I can't say I'm watching the sport of car racing when the guys are going around the track. its them driving. Pure and simple thats it. They're driving faster, but they are still driving.

BtownBeers · April 11th, 2006, 03:27 PM

I see what you are trying to say but that could easily be spun to say about any sport in reality they are all just doing something to win chasing a ball and wacking it with a club to get it in a hole or throwing a ball to a person to try to cross a line, while some sports are much more entertaining to watch than others if the goal is to win as part of an indvidual or team effort then it can be considered a sport. Trust me I am not defending Nascar because I rarely ever watch a race or have the desire to but its hard to say this isn't a sport IMO...and the opinion's of many many many people.

karasz411 · April 11th, 2006, 03:35 PM

Yeah, its looking like you're totally right beers.

Although, you gotta give me some credit... EXTREME RAKING, that really sounds like it could work.

BtownBeers · April 11th, 2006, 03:42 PM

How many rounds have I won now? lol

Hey I am with you all the way man no question I'd be down for Extreme Raking Rant edition! Maybe mikee will anti up some loot to get it going.

Rusty27 · April 11th, 2006, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by karasz411

I've raced my friends before. granted we werent going 125 on turns, but then again we dont wanna die either. So no I've never seen a race with just 1 driver, but it doesn't change the fact that the car/horse is doing most of the work, along with the fact that the 'athlete' is just sitting there.

Not 1 driver in a race. I meant a driver with out a crew.It's a team sport.
Even if you could convince me the driver is doing no work,you can't convince
me the pit crew isn't doing any.

BtownBeers · April 11th, 2006, 03:48 PM

No worries Rusty I took care of him for you man...I got your back....LOL

Rusty27 · April 11th, 2006, 03:58 PM

Thanks man.Just amazing how little someone can know about something yet
have such a strong opinion on it.

BtownBeers · April 11th, 2006, 04:05 PM

Well now he knows more and thinks less lol

Rusty27 · April 11th, 2006, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by karasz411

Not at all, a ball is also needed in most sports. It's not the extra equipment that makes or breaks a sport. What I'm saying is, that driving isn't. I understand, they are going 200+ mph, with great risk to their own life and safety. In fact, the most beloved member died just 2 or 3 years ago in the biggest race of the year.

But, they are driving. I understand it's 4 times as fast as what most persons have ever driven. along with it being 130 in the car. And I understand that, but I can't say I'm watching the sport of car racing when the guys are going around the track. its them driving. Pure and simple thats it. They're driving faster, but they are still driving.

When you drive your car,do you lose 10 pounds like Nascar drivers do?

April 11th, 2006, 03:01 PM	#19
BtownBeers Join Date: 08-23-2004 Location: In Mrs. Jays Pants! Posts: 21,551	200 MPH on a track with 25+ other cars doing the same is no walk in the park...couple that with a competent pit crew that keeps you in the race I think this is as much of a sport as any. I mean in golf or baseball an external object such as a glove, bat, or club is needed to do the sport so does that make them less of a sport?

April 11th, 2006, 03:27 PM	#21
BtownBeers Join Date: 08-23-2004 Location: In Mrs. Jays Pants! Posts: 21,551	I see what you are trying to say but that could easily be spun to say about any sport in reality they are all just doing something to win chasing a ball and wacking it with a club to get it in a hole or throwing a ball to a person to try to cross a line, while some sports are much more entertaining to watch than others if the goal is to win as part of an indvidual or team effort then it can be considered a sport. Trust me I am not defending Nascar because I rarely ever watch a race or have the desire to but its hard to say this isn't a sport IMO...and the opinion's of many many many people.

April 11th, 2006, 03:35 PM	#22
karasz411 Join Date: 02-02-2006 Location: philly Posts: 440	Yeah, its looking like you're totally right beers. Although, you gotta give me some credit... EXTREME RAKING, that really sounds like it could work.

April 11th, 2006, 03:42 PM	#23
BtownBeers Join Date: 08-23-2004 Location: In Mrs. Jays Pants! Posts: 21,551	How many rounds have I won now? lol Hey I am with you all the way man no question I'd be down for Extreme Raking Rant edition! Maybe mikee will anti up some loot to get it going.

April 11th, 2006, 03:48 PM	#25
BtownBeers Join Date: 08-23-2004 Location: In Mrs. Jays Pants! Posts: 21,551	No worries Rusty I took care of him for you man...I got your back....LOL

April 11th, 2006, 03:58 PM	#26
Rusty27 Join Date: 07-15-2004 Location: Knoxville,Tenn. Posts: 27,729	Thanks man.Just amazing how little someone can know about something yet have such a strong opinion on it.

April 11th, 2006, 04:05 PM	#27
BtownBeers Join Date: 08-23-2004 Location: In Mrs. Jays Pants! Posts: 21,551	Well now he knows more and thinks less lol