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Old January 28th, 2004, 02:45 PM   #1
 
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The NHL in America: A Lost Cause

The NHL has always wanted
to consider itself one of the “Big Four” major sports leagues in America, with
fat contracts, big business, high profiles and millions of obsessive, doting
fans. Together with the NFL, NBA, and MLB, they are the grand slam of the
professional sports market....
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Old January 28th, 2004, 04:08 PM   #2
 
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There isn't even a word for how stupid you are.

There isn't even a word for how stupid you are.
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The NHL has always wanted
to consider itself one of the “Big Four” major sports leagues in America, with
fat contracts, big business, high profiles and millions of obsessive, doting
fans. Together with the NFL, NBA, and MLB, they are the grand slam of the
professional sports market.
This,
however, is a serious delusion that can’t continue. The NHL is not nor has it
ever been a major sport in America, and it never will be anytime soon. If it
truly thinks that it is somehow part and parcel of some great, opulent
professional sports family, then it’s more like that easily ignorable cousin who
never gets any presents on his birthday, than like the other darling children
who get front-page headlines if they so much as sneeze.


For ground level, realistic example of this, hockey and basketball fans across the continent are currently tabulating votes for their respective all-star games. As of this writing, the #1 hockey player with the most votes of anyone is Martin Brodeur, with 97,000. That’s not too bad, until you realize that the #1 vote getter for the NBA is Vince Carter, who has over 1.1 million. As if to hammer the point home and make the discrepancy truly insulting, ESPN has televised more games of the dismal Cleveland Cavaliers than they have the Philadelphia Flyers, Toronto Maple Leafs, Atlanta Thrashers, Detroit Red Wings, Vancouver Canucks, and Los Angeles Kings (the six NHL division leaders) COMBINED. Lebron James has a 100 million dollar endorsement contract, the cover of countless magazines, and has his every moved scientifically scrutinized. Meanwhile, Sydney Crosby, the 16-year old hockey equivalent of Lebron, is………what’s that? Never heard of Sydney Crosby? Exactly.



This conscious negligence of hockey is prevalent everywhere else as well—in some cases, even more so. The annual World Junior Hockey Championships (featuring Sydney Crosby), a tournament that USA is actually heavily favoured to win this year, doesn’t exist in America. There is no mention of it anywhere on any news outlet in the lower 48. Conversely, March Madness and the New Years Bowl games build so much tension you think the country was in the grips of a civil war. Figure skating, child beauty pageants and monster truck rallies have larger audiences than hockey. Sometimes it has to fight the World Cup of Poker and 5-pin bowling for TV rights. Yet it acts as if it has the money and the influence to command high profiles and massive salaries. The NHL is living well beyond its means, and then it wonders why so many teams are in financial trouble now.



So why doesn’t America like hockey? Arguably, it is the most exciting sport in the world. A sport with relatively few stoppages, the play is always moving at high speeds, it has the violence of football and the playmaking of basketball. What’s so wrong about it? Well, actually, it has nothing to do with the game itself, and the NHL’s desperate attempts to improve the quality of play or market it differently have completely missed the point. Nothing is wrong with hockey. What’s wrong is the culture of America.



America does not have any interest in things that aren't American. Hence its reluctance (unwillingness? uncaringness?) to engage readily in any of the grander, more international sports like soccer or rugby. What are the most popular sports in America? Baseball, an American creation overwhelmingly dominated by Americans; NFL football, an American creation overwhelmingly dominated by Americans; Basketball, a Canadian creation however he was an American school teacher at the time, but that’s not too important so long as the game remains overwhelmingly dominated by Americans; NASCAR, a sport created by and overwhelmingly dominated by Americans. Other non-team sports like golf and tennis are popular in America, but only when Americans are dominating them. There’re also things like the America’s Cup, which has declined in popularity the last couple of years, ever since America stopped winning it (but it has acquired renewed interest abroad).



Part of the reasoning behind this is that America, which had no real (industrialized) culture to speak of, had to manufacture its culture through immigration and assimilation rather than let it develop naturally through history like other nations have, hence entrusting Americans with the need to justify it to an almost rabid extent. Conversely, the end product of having such a large landmass literally feed on itself for cultural sustenance has created, in effect, an extremely xenophobic attitude towards foreign ideas. In Europe you can travel through 14 countries and 10 different languages on one tank of gas. You can't do that in America. Hence, there's no real necessity to learn (much less tolerate) other people's ways or viewpoints, when there really are no such viewpoints near you. Where the hell is someone from Nebraska going to learn another culture's values? Americans are the most culturally sheltered people in the world.



This fits in with the alienation of hockey, a sport that, among the Big Four, is by far the most international. 24 countries are represented, with over third of the talent coming from outside North America. Americans, grown and raised exclusively in an American cultural bubble, are not going to accept a foreign game played by foreign people. They are only going to cling to the things they know and understand: Americans excelling at American things, playing American sports. Going to American colleges and eating American food while watching American movies featuring Americans doing American things in the most American Way possible. So when something else--say hockey--comes around, it's not that they don’t like it insomuch as they just don't care. There's no cultural connection there. Moreover, there is an underlying philosophy in America to reject anything that's not American. This is compounded by the need to feel threatened when confronted by uncomfortably un-American things (there are oodles of examples of this, especially in industry, commerce, and politics).



Hockey? Hockey makes sense to Michigan and Minnesota and all the northern states--i.e: the places that actually have a connection to it, aided by their exposure to the cultural runoff of Canadian values. But putting hockey any further south than that makes as much sense as putting a NASCAR track in Vancouver or hosting the NCAA basketball tournament in Edmonton. Or an Aussie Rules Football championship in the Louisiana Superdome.



Maybe what the NHL should be doing instead is stop bending over backwards trying to make new fans, and instead focus on retaining the ones they’ve got. Because trying to compete in a hostile market is obviously not working, and Canadians are becoming increasingly impatient with a league that only wants to appeal to affluent Americans who refuse to get with the program.
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Old January 28th, 2004, 07:00 PM   #3
 
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The lack of coverage in the States is truly a shame. Generally, unless you live in Minnesota, Michigan, North Dakota, etc or somewhere where the hockey franchise is the most consistently successful pro sports franchise of late (such as Denver) chances are you're not going to here much about it. I find it terrible that the first World Junior Championship gold medal was mentioned as a blurb at the bottom of most sports sections, and some papers probably didn't even mention it. That's just not right. Don't even start me on the lack of coverage for college hockey. NHL coverage is minimal, NCAA is practically non-existant (unless of course you live somewhere like Ann Arbor).
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Old January 29th, 2004, 11:53 AM   #4
 
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Good Points

After reading the first paragraph of this article, I was enraged. Upon reading some more, I realized that the author makes some good points.
  1. Hockey IS the most exciting sport in the world. It combines all the skills of every other professional sport.
  2. Americans have no culture.
Americans are fair weather fans. If Americans are dominating a sport the fans come out in droves (1980 Miracle on Ice, Women's Olympic Soccer, etc). The American media is mostly to blame in my humble opinion. Most sports writers and commentators don't understand the game. The other problem is that most Americans have never played the game. If you ever tired playing hockey, you would probably fall in love with it.

I live in Las Vegas and play in a men's hockey league. People think it's a little weird to play ice hockey in the desert, but I really couldn't care less what they think. I know where to get my hockey news and I subscribe to the NHL package on DTV (I also get the NFL package). Other hockey fans I know have just learned to live with the complete lack of coverage and understanding of the Greatest Game on Earth here in the US.
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Old January 29th, 2004, 01:07 PM   #5
 
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greatest game on earth?

I doubt it since that is matter of opinion.

Look at what you pay to get information on hockey, Direct TV.

Other sports come in just plain old TV stations
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Old January 29th, 2004, 06:45 PM   #6
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Not to bad of an article..but it sounds like the author is trying to slant the birth of basketball.. He was a Canadian teaching in the US..not an American teacher. WIth that fact wrong..what else is wavering in this passage ???
 
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mossy_master: so are you ever going to come up with a well-reasoned and sensible argument, or are you just going to sit there in front of your computer and look like an idiot?

jimster: That's right. Dr. James Naismith, born November 6, 1861 in Almonte, Ontario, Canada, attended Amonte High school and then attended McGill University in Montreal where he got his degree in philosophy in 1887. Moving on to Presbyterian College in Montreal, where he also picked up a degree in religion in 1890. In 1891 he moved to the United States for the first time to teach at the YMCA Training School in Springfield, Massachusetts, where he obtained his physical education degree. It was there, in the winter of 1991-92, that Dr. Luther Gulick, head of Physical Education department, asked Naismith to create an indoor game that would provide an "athletic distraction" for a rowdy class through the brutal New England winter. Naismith thus developed the original 13 rules for the game he called "basket ball."

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Old January 31st, 2004, 12:31 PM   #8
 
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This is an american sport, so go back across the border
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Old January 31st, 2004, 06:23 PM   #9
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Hey Nyall.. what is an american sport.. the rant is about Hockey ( Canadian ) and Basketball ( Canadian) so what are you babbling about THIS time .. Making sense the odd time might benefit your posts just a weeee bit Go ahead..give it a try.. and use the Queen's English for a laugh or two then again.. you probably don't know what I mean by that..so we shall call it a day LOL

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Well, basketball was create by a Canadian, in America.

So I dont know how to go about that.

Hockey is purely Canadian.
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Sorry Ishkur i didn't wanna ruin your whole day like that. If it will help your selfesteem, call me an idiot. Have a nice day.
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I didn't call you an idiot. You did that all by yourself.
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ishkur you rock buddy, your the coolest person in the world, I want to be your friend. All the girls think your so hot. You must get laid like all the time, can I have you? Your way popular.
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