UFC58 March4 10:00 PM EST

masterson · February 17th, 2006, 12:32 AM

Date: 03/04/2006 10:00 PM EST

Event Type: PPV Live

Location: Mandalay Bay Events Center, Nevada

UFC 58 – USA vs Canada - Complete Card

Rich Franklin vs David Loiseau

Georges St-Pierre vs BJ Penn

John Alessio vs Diego Sanchez

Joe Doerksen vs Nathan Marquardt

Steve Vigneault vs Mike Swick

Mark Hominick vs Yves Edwards

Sam Stout vs Kenny Florian

Rob MacDonald vs Jason Lambert

Christophe Midoux vs Tom Murphy

any insights guys?

ssigman · February 17th, 2006, 10:04 AM

well i hope all the americans win....but, st. pierre is gonna win cause right now, he's at the top of his game...i don't like kenny florian at all but i never heard of sam stout so who knows...swick should win....diego should win....rooting for doerksen and the franklin fight could be a tough one for him....loiseau is tough...but canadian, so he'll lose

masterson · February 17th, 2006, 09:32 PM

I dont really go for that country vs country format coz i think each individual regardless of wether they are from the Canada or US, has talent uniquely his own.still, i think the fight card is awesome. i think it promises to be a spectacular night! I'm glad the UFC is bringing back the lightweights division in general and Edwards specifically.Also im looking forward to the Ace vs Crow main event.

Kyle F. Lewis · February 21st, 2006, 02:08 PM

I was really unimpressed with Kenny Florian through the TV Show, but now that I've seen him fight a few more times, I think he's starting to look pretty good. He's really good at getting his opponents in an Americana and just tearing them apart with his ground and pound. I don't see Loiseau doing anything against Franklin; Crow is a talented fighter, but he has been kind of an underachiever. I think the only Middleweight who can beat Georges St. Pierre right now is Matt Hughes. If Hughes beats Gracie later this year they have to give GSP another shot at him.

BtownJay · February 21st, 2006, 02:11 PM

There is too much boxing on that night for me to even consider watching this.

Showtime has - Jeff Lacy (21-0) v. Joe Calzaghe (40-0)

HBO has - Miguel Cotto (25-0) v. Gianluca Bronco (36-1)

I think i'll read about the UFC results from that night!

Kyle F. Lewis · February 21st, 2006, 02:22 PM

I haven't gotten to see Cotto fight, but Jeff Lacy's left is deadly

BtownJay · February 21st, 2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle F. Lewis

I haven't gotten to see Cotto fight, but Jeff Lacy's left is deadly

Lacy's left is deadly... and his right is becoming just as big, if not bigger. He's a bad man.

Cotto is a hard puncher and throws alot of punches. He's alot of fun to watch, but will be beaten once he runs into a guy who is faster and hits harder because he has a shaky chin. Ricky Hatton or Floyd Mayweather would crush him.

As far as the UFC fights go, I'm rooting for Franklin, Swick, Sanchez, and St. Pierre.

Kyle F. Lewis · February 21st, 2006, 02:36 PM

I would love to see Hatton and Mayweather go toe-to-toe. Floyd Mayweather has one of the weirdest styles I've ever seen, but his handspeed is so quick that he tears people up

BtownJay · February 21st, 2006, 02:39 PM

Hatton v. Mayweather MUST MUST happen soon. Two of the best fighters in the world right now, and both right about the same weight. Mayweather could be one of the best fighters to ever live, but he needs to fight the other current champs to prove it.

ssigman · February 21st, 2006, 02:45 PM

jay, how could you root for st. pierre...he's canadian!

Kyle F. Lewis · February 21st, 2006, 02:47 PM

I agree, I wasn't impressed with his win over Gatti, just because you could tell they were on two different levels. He needs to find some tough competition or else he'll have to jump weight classes. That could take down his speed if he goes up or his power if he goes down.

BtownJay · February 21st, 2006, 02:57 PM

Floyd started at 130 and fought his last two fights at 147. So he has been moving up pretty steadily. (thats 4 weight classes). He's just the best pound for pound fighter in the world, and makes anyone he fights look like they are a class below him. But he hasn't fought many of the best guys at 140 and 147 yet, maybe that could change.

Sig, i honestly don't care where they are from. Is St. Pierre the only one i picked from Canada? I just want to see guys I like winning and getting the title shots.

February 17th, 2006, 12:32 AM	#1
masterson Rant Noobie Join Date: 11-18-2005 Posts: 43 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	UFC58 March4 10:00 PM EST Date: 03/04/2006 10:00 PM EST Event Type: PPV Live Location: Mandalay Bay Events Center, Nevada UFC 58 – USA vs Canada - Complete Card Rich Franklin vs David Loiseau Georges St-Pierre vs BJ Penn John Alessio vs Diego Sanchez Joe Doerksen vs Nathan Marquardt Steve Vigneault vs Mike Swick Mark Hominick vs Yves Edwards Sam Stout vs Kenny Florian Rob MacDonald vs Jason Lambert Christophe Midoux vs Tom Murphy any insights guys?

February 21st, 2006, 02:08 PM	#4
Kyle F. Lewis It look like a leprechaun to me Join Date: 02-05-2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 106 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	I was really unimpressed with Kenny Florian through the TV Show, but now that I've seen him fight a few more times, I think he's starting to look pretty good. He's really good at getting his opponents in an Americana and just tearing them apart with his ground and pound. I don't see Loiseau doing anything against Franklin; Crow is a talented fighter, but he has been kind of an underachiever. I think the only Middleweight who can beat Georges St. Pierre right now is Matt Hughes. If Hughes beats Gracie later this year they have to give GSP another shot at him. __________________ *I wanna know where da gold at...* *Give me da gold*

February 21st, 2006, 02:22 PM	#6
Kyle F. Lewis It look like a leprechaun to me Join Date: 02-05-2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 106 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	I haven't gotten to see Cotto fight, but Jeff Lacy's left is deadly __________________ *I wanna know where da gold at...* *Give me da gold*

February 21st, 2006, 02:36 PM	#8
Kyle F. Lewis It look like a leprechaun to me Join Date: 02-05-2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 106 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	I would love to see Hatton and Mayweather go toe-to-toe. Floyd Mayweather has one of the weirdest styles I've ever seen, but his handspeed is so quick that he tears people up __________________ *I wanna know where da gold at...* *Give me da gold*

February 21st, 2006, 02:47 PM	#11
Kyle F. Lewis It look like a leprechaun to me Join Date: 02-05-2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 106 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	I agree, I wasn't impressed with his win over Gatti, just because you could tell they were on two different levels. He needs to find some tough competition or else he'll have to jump weight classes. That could take down his speed if he goes up or his power if he goes down. __________________ *I wanna know where da gold at...* *Give me da gold*

February 17th, 2006, 09:32 PM	#3
masterson Rant Noobie Join Date: 11-18-2005 Posts: 43 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	I dont really go for that country vs country format coz i think each individual regardless of wether they are from the Canada or US, has talent uniquely his own.still, i think the fight card is awesome. i think it promises to be a spectacular night! I'm glad the UFC is bringing back the lightweights division in general and Edwards specifically.Also im looking forward to the Ace vs Crow main event.