Steve Nash among all time greats

KP · May 9th, 2006, 04:50 PM

Steve Nash won his second NBA MVP Award a couple days ago. His second award in a row! He joins Magic Johnson as the only PGs to win more than one and only the ninth in the history of the NBA to win consecutively.

Nash had career highs in scoring, rebounds, FG % and FT % as well as minutes. He also led the league in assits.

Only Larry Bird had a greater increase in scoring from one MVP year to the next.

Without Amare Stoudamire, arguably the best player on the Phoenix team, the Nash-led Suns had six teammates set career highs in scoring.

He also lost Quentin Richardson and Joe Johnson...along with the virtually season long absence of the injured Stoudamire...three starters from last years team.

With Nash running the show,the Suns won their division again...his team won the overall scoring title for the fifth year in a row (his Mavericks won the scoring title before Nash left for the Suns) joining Alex English (and Dan Issel) as the only players to be part of a five consecutive year run of team scoring championships.

Magic
Larry
Alex English

Nash deserves to be considered one of the all-time greatest players to ever play in the NBA.

Yes or No?

nhannaford · May 9th, 2006, 06:13 PM

Personally, I think he is because of his numbers. But until he gets his team a championship, he won't be really recognized by the masses as a legend.

karasz411 · May 10th, 2006, 01:10 AM

I have to say no. Great player, would love to have him on my team but I don't see him as a top 10 player.

In fact, in all honesty, give me Chris Paul over Steve Nash. I like people that play defense.

Say you were doing a real life fantasy draft, how many guys would you have ranked above Nash?

Off the top of my head, in no order: AI, Dirk, Shaq, D-wade, Kobe, Paul Pierce, Michael Redd, Duncan, Parker, Amare, Marion, Billups, Ben Wallace, Arenas, Lebron.

That's 15 guys that are higher on my draft board without even thinking.

I really don't think he should have been MVP either. If I had a vote it would have been for Dirk, he'd be my 1st pick to be on my real life fantasy team. And I really think he deserves credit for the phenomal job he did this season putting the D in Dallas and leading a 60 win team.

ssigman · May 10th, 2006, 10:12 AM

i say yes for the simple reason he makes everyone around him better....he doesn't need to win a title or start a team...the guy is the best overall pg in the league right now...he's consistently takes mid level players and makes them potential all stars...he's done this over his whole tenure in phoenix...the numbers speak for themselves but the ability to make everyone better...i'd take that over some defense anyday

BtownBeers · May 10th, 2006, 10:22 AM

ssigs...I agree with you completely...maybe a little too early to call him one of the ALL TIME greats but he is well on his way IMO

ssigman · May 10th, 2006, 04:59 PM

agreed

Rusty27 · May 10th, 2006, 05:08 PM

I agree as well.But until he wins a championship:
It goes down like this
1.Young
2.Crosby
3.Nash
4.Stills

ssigman · May 11th, 2006, 09:56 AM

i don't think that's staying on topic

Rusty27 · May 11th, 2006, 10:26 AM

There was more on topic content than you saying "agreed"

ssigman · May 11th, 2006, 10:34 AM

not really..i made a comment...beers expanded on that comment and i agreed with it

Rusty27 · May 11th, 2006, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssigman

not really..i made a comment...beers expanded on that comment and i agreed with it

So did I.By the way...Steve Nash is great and your above post is off topic.

May 9th, 2006, 04:50 PM	#1
KP blank Join Date: 07-08-2002 Posts: 1,988 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	Steve Nash among all time greats Steve Nash won his second NBA MVP Award a couple days ago. His second award in a row! He joins Magic Johnson as the only PGs to win more than one and only the ninth in the history of the NBA to win consecutively. Nash had career highs in scoring, rebounds, FG % and FT % as well as minutes. He also led the league in assits. Only Larry Bird had a greater increase in scoring from one MVP year to the next. Without Amare Stoudamire, arguably the best player on the Phoenix team, the Nash-led Suns had six teammates set career highs in scoring. He also lost Quentin Richardson and Joe Johnson...along with the virtually season long absence of the injured Stoudamire...three starters from last years team. With Nash running the show,the Suns won their division again...his team won the overall scoring title for the fifth year in a row (his Mavericks won the scoring title before Nash left for the Suns) joining Alex English (and Dan Issel) as the only players to be part of a five consecutive year run of team scoring championships. Magic Larry Alex English Nash deserves to be considered one of the all-time greatest players to ever play in the NBA. Yes or No? __________________ It's a RANT DADDY world.....and we're all just livin' in it!

May 9th, 2006, 06:13 PM	#2
nhannaford GO SOX! Join Date: 06-04-2004 Location: Raynham, MA Posts: 1,348 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	Personally, I think he is because of his numbers. But until he gets his team a championship, he won't be really recognized by the masses as a legend. __________________ Residential Masshole

May 10th, 2006, 01:10 AM	#3
karasz411 JV Hopskotch Capt- 3 years in a row Join Date: 02-02-2006 Location: philly Posts: 440 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	I have to say no. Great player, would love to have him on my team but I don't see him as a top 10 player. In fact, in all honesty, give me Chris Paul over Steve Nash. I like people that play defense. Say you were doing a real life fantasy draft, how many guys would you have ranked above Nash? Off the top of my head, in no order: AI, Dirk, Shaq, D-wade, Kobe, Paul Pierce, Michael Redd, Duncan, Parker, Amare, Marion, Billups, Ben Wallace, Arenas, Lebron. That's 15 guys that are higher on my draft board without even thinking. I really don't think he should have been MVP either. If I had a vote it would have been for Dirk, he'd be my 1st pick to be on my real life fantasy team. And I really think he deserves credit for the phenomal job he did this season putting the D in Dallas and leading a 60 win team. __________________ They usually don't let seniors on the JV team, but they made an exception for me.

May 10th, 2006, 10:22 AM	#5
BtownBeers Skull Fucker Wannabeeee! Join Date: 08-23-2004 Location: In Mrs. Jays Pants! Posts: 23,790 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	ssigs...I agree with you completely...maybe a little too early to call him one of the ALL TIME greats but he is well on his way IMO __________________ As someone who has been on both ends of a loaded weapon I can only wish you well in your idealized little vision of what the world should be; I will continue to deal the world as it really is. -BaldBil

May 10th, 2006, 05:08 PM	#7
Rusty27 Good ol' Rocky Top;Rocky Top,Tennessee Join Date: 07-15-2004 Location: Knoxville,Tenn. Posts: 31,320 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	I agree as well.But until he wins a championship: It goes down like this 1.Young 2.Crosby 3.Nash 4.Stills __________________

May 11th, 2006, 10:26 AM	#9
Rusty27 Good ol' Rocky Top;Rocky Top,Tennessee Join Date: 07-15-2004 Location: Knoxville,Tenn. Posts: 31,320 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	There was more on topic content than you saying "agreed" __________________