UFC 62 - 8/26/2006

BtownJay · July 17th, 2006, 10:38 AM

First two fights have been announced...

Chuck Liddell vs. Renato Sobral
Forrest Griffin vs. Stephan Bonnar

The Griffin/Bonnar rematch was needed and its finally here. If they can put on another war like the first fight, this could be another great night of fighting. This could be a card worth buying (if i didn't have a wedding that night, maybe i'll catch the replay)... i can't wait to see what other fights are added.

ssigman · July 17th, 2006, 11:19 AM

well the chuck liddell fight has the potential to be a good one cause sobral is on a massive winning streak since he lost to liddell last time....but that streak doesn't include the best light heavyweights...so if liddell is healthy, he should take sobral again

griffin/bonnar...to me, this is a step down for griffin...he worked his way up to tito ortiz and gave him a good fight and now he's matched up against bonnar...who imo lost to keith jardine(but got the decision) and lost to rashad evans...

BtownJay · July 17th, 2006, 11:31 AM

Yeah it may be a step down for Griffin, but its not like he has a choice. Plus, they are putting it on for the entertainment value. The first fight was simply amazing. Neither fighter is in line for a title shot at this point, but a big win for Griffin here and a couple others could get him there.

The Liddell fight is my problem with the UFC. I don't believe for one second Sobral is the #1 ranked guy behind Liddell. And the UFC doesn't want one of their most marketable fighters to lose. They are putting Liddell in with Sobral because they know he is going to win. This, IMO, is why they don't have rankings.... people can't bitch because the title holders aren't in there with the top ranked fighters.

ssigman · July 17th, 2006, 11:59 AM

well actually if liddell wins this fight, he's gonna fight wanderlei silva...a beast from pride fighting...that would be a huge fight...silva is the champ in pride i believe

BtownJay · July 17th, 2006, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ssigman

well actually if liddell wins this fight, he's gonna fight wanderlei silva...a beast from pride fighting...that would be a huge fight...silva is the champ in pride i believe

wow... i guess they need chuck to get his name out there alittle more and then need months to talk that silva guy up. They are looking for a big pay day, there is no doubt in my mind. They aren't going to let their champ lose to a Pride guy unless there are alot of buys.

ssigman · July 17th, 2006, 01:49 PM

silva really is a beast and if you follow mma outside of ufc their is no need to build him up...but your right..for the ufc fans who dont know who he is..they need to talk him up....i think he fought in ufc before..not positive on that one and to lazy to look it up....

BtownJay · July 17th, 2006, 02:04 PM

Yeah i don't follow MMA outside of the UFC at all and I don't believe i've ever heard of him. He's not the same Silva who blasted Leben last Fight Night Live is he? That Silva seemed too light. At this point i can't imagine Liddell/Silva being a huge PPV as of yet.

ssigman · July 17th, 2006, 02:54 PM

no he's a different silva...really good with the kicks and knees...great standup fighter...but also has submissions...rarely uses them though..here's the whole story on him..he has fought in ufc..not successfully though

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanderlei_Silva

BtownJay · July 17th, 2006, 03:24 PM

Huh, thanks for the link. I hope he gets on the undercard of the next PPV with Liddell fighting. It did mention it could be a 3 fight deal. I'd like to get a look at him. His record does not seem all that impressive, and i certainly can see why he left the UFC.

BtownJay · July 17th, 2006, 03:38 PM

Okay, so i did some digging. I found out Silva is fighting Quintin Jackson in PRIDE next. It was interesting to see that this Jackson guy already beat Liddell in PRIDE in 2003. And Silva has already beaten Jackson two times by KO in the 1st and 2nd rounds. Looks like Silva is better than his record shows

?

http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/f...?FighterID=348 <Jackson

http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/f...?FighterID=209 <silva

ssigman · July 17th, 2006, 03:40 PM

the second fight against jackson was shown last week on the pride show on msg...knocked him out with a good muy tai knee...even though his record doesn't seem impressive...he's beaten some big time fighters...not in the ufc though...the rules in pride are different...more lenient

Rusty27 · August 14th, 2006, 08:25 AM

Watched Josh Haynes vs Micheal Bisping.Kinda weird seeing Haynes' fat rolls
around his waist representing the US.Oh well , Haynes got creamed.
Then Kenny Florian and Sam Stout.I blinked and Stout was tapping out.Very
short match.

BtownJay · August 14th, 2006, 08:32 AM

Where did you see these fights Rusty? Replay on Spike or something? Josh Haynes was a HUGE fat dude before. I think he said he dropped over 100 pounds. Thats why he looks like he has rolls... he dropped the fat but the skin is still stretched out.

Rusty27 · August 14th, 2006, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BtownJay

Where did you see these fights Rusty? Replay on Spike or something? Josh Haynes was a HUGE fat dude before. I think he said he dropped over 100 pounds. Thats why he looks like he has rolls... he dropped the fat but the skin is still stretched out.

Yeah,it was on Spike on Friday night.The fight was for a title.
I think middle or light heavyweight?
Well,It looked like Mrs.Haynes would do good to drop that much weight.LOL.

July 17th, 2006, 10:38 AM	#1
BtownJay Join Date: 07-14-2004 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 30,086 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	UFC 62 - 8/26/2006 First two fights have been announced... Chuck Liddell vs. Renato Sobral Forrest Griffin vs. Stephan Bonnar The Griffin/Bonnar rematch was needed and its finally here. If they can put on another war like the first fight, this could be another great night of fighting. This could be a card worth buying (if i didn't have a wedding that night, maybe i'll catch the replay)... i can't wait to see what other fights are added.

July 17th, 2006, 11:19 AM	#2
ssigman Join Date: 03-15-2004 Posts: 28,689 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	well the chuck liddell fight has the potential to be a good one cause sobral is on a massive winning streak since he lost to liddell last time....but that streak doesn't include the best light heavyweights...so if liddell is healthy, he should take sobral again griffin/bonnar...to me, this is a step down for griffin...he worked his way up to tito ortiz and gave him a good fight and now he's matched up against bonnar...who imo lost to keith jardine(but got the decision) and lost to rashad evans...

July 17th, 2006, 11:31 AM	#3
BtownJay Join Date: 07-14-2004 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 30,086 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	Yeah it may be a step down for Griffin, but its not like he has a choice. Plus, they are putting it on for the entertainment value. The first fight was simply amazing. Neither fighter is in line for a title shot at this point, but a big win for Griffin here and a couple others could get him there. The Liddell fight is my problem with the UFC. I don't believe for one second Sobral is the #1 ranked guy behind Liddell. And the UFC doesn't want one of their most marketable fighters to lose. They are putting Liddell in with Sobral because they know he is going to win. This, IMO, is why they don't have rankings.... people can't bitch because the title holders aren't in there with the top ranked fighters.

July 17th, 2006, 11:59 AM	#4
ssigman Join Date: 03-15-2004 Posts: 28,689 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	well actually if liddell wins this fight, he's gonna fight wanderlei silva...a beast from pride fighting...that would be a huge fight...silva is the champ in pride i believe

July 17th, 2006, 01:49 PM	#6
ssigman Join Date: 03-15-2004 Posts: 28,689 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	silva really is a beast and if you follow mma outside of ufc their is no need to build him up...but your right..for the ufc fans who dont know who he is..they need to talk him up....i think he fought in ufc before..not positive on that one and to lazy to look it up....

July 17th, 2006, 02:04 PM	#7
BtownJay Join Date: 07-14-2004 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 30,086 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	Yeah i don't follow MMA outside of the UFC at all and I don't believe i've ever heard of him. He's not the same Silva who blasted Leben last Fight Night Live is he? That Silva seemed too light. At this point i can't imagine Liddell/Silva being a huge PPV as of yet.

July 17th, 2006, 02:54 PM	#8
ssigman Join Date: 03-15-2004 Posts: 28,689 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	no he's a different silva...really good with the kicks and knees...great standup fighter...but also has submissions...rarely uses them though..here's the whole story on him..he has fought in ufc..not successfully though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanderlei_Silva

July 17th, 2006, 03:24 PM	#9
BtownJay Join Date: 07-14-2004 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 30,086 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	Huh, thanks for the link. I hope he gets on the undercard of the next PPV with Liddell fighting. It did mention it could be a 3 fight deal. I'd like to get a look at him. His record does not seem all that impressive, and i certainly can see why he left the UFC.

July 17th, 2006, 03:38 PM	#10
BtownJay Join Date: 07-14-2004 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 30,086 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	Okay, so i did some digging. I found out Silva is fighting Quintin Jackson in PRIDE next. It was interesting to see that this Jackson guy already beat Liddell in PRIDE in 2003. And Silva has already beaten Jackson two times by KO in the 1st and 2nd rounds. Looks like Silva is better than his record shows ? http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/f...?FighterID=348 <Jackson http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/f...?FighterID=209 <silva

July 17th, 2006, 03:40 PM	#11
ssigman Join Date: 03-15-2004 Posts: 28,689 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	the second fight against jackson was shown last week on the pride show on msg...knocked him out with a good muy tai knee...even though his record doesn't seem impressive...he's beaten some big time fighters...not in the ufc though...the rules in pride are different...more lenient

August 14th, 2006, 08:25 AM	#12
Rusty27 Join Date: 07-15-2004 Location: Knoxville,Tenn. Posts: 31,057 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	Watched Josh Haynes vs Micheal Bisping.Kinda weird seeing Haynes' fat rolls around his waist representing the US.Oh well , Haynes got creamed. Then Kenny Florian and Sam Stout.I blinked and Stout was tapping out.Very short match.

August 14th, 2006, 08:32 AM	#13
BtownJay Join Date: 07-14-2004 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 30,086 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	Where did you see these fights Rusty? Replay on Spike or something? Josh Haynes was a HUGE fat dude before. I think he said he dropped over 100 pounds. Thats why he looks like he has rolls... he dropped the fat but the skin is still stretched out.