Report: Ex-NFL player's suicide linked to brain damage

sr_news · January 18th, 2007, 03:30 PM

A leading forensic pathologist told The New York Times that brain damage suffered by former NFL defensive back Andre Waters may have led to his depression and ultimately his suicide.

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BaldBil · January 18th, 2007, 06:50 PM

This is not a surprise really, there have been others over the years most recent in memory was Mike Webster the ex-Steelers center.

Concussions are bad news especially once you get into the three or more stage. I have had more than my share and still get dizzy spells and ocassional moments of confusion in certain situations(go ahead and have your fun here). I am always amazed when guys like Aikman, Lindros and others keep on playing their respective sports after multiple TBI's.

BtownBeers · January 19th, 2007, 08:18 AM

The Benefits right now (money, job) and even some players love of their respective game I think outweighs the consequences later for most and possibly the limited amount of serious cases that involve players and death from the head trauma.

BaldBil · January 19th, 2007, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BtownBeers

The Benefits right now (money, job) and even some players love of their respective game I think outweighs the consequences later for most and possibly the limited amount of serious cases that involve players and death from the head trauma.

No doubt true. Short range viewpoints are sometimes profitable especially for athletes whose prime earning years end early. It is still a grea risk to both them and their families that they endure for financial security. One of lifes tradeoffs I guess.

BtownBeers · January 19th, 2007, 12:59 PM

You're absolutley right, however prime earning years for them, some even just one of those years typically exceeds most peoples lifetime income.

ssigman · January 19th, 2007, 02:00 PM

beers....can you give us some info on how many players you think get/gotten brain injuries compared to the number that don't and how the risk/reward factors into the decisions..

thanks

BaldBil · January 19th, 2007, 02:00 PM

Which is why I feel they are putting the cart before the horse sometimes.

Rusty27 · January 19th, 2007, 02:01 PM

According to textbook theory, changes in monetary benefits influence employment and production in the short run but, in the long run, affect only prices and inflation rates. When an owner slows the rate of money growth, for instance, the end result will be a lower rate of inflation, but the transition to lower inflation can take some time, and it often entails a period of depressed economic activity, including higher unemployment. This short-run tradeoff between inflation and unemployment is often called the Phillips curve, after the classic study of this topic by A. W. Phillips in the 1950s. Much research in the NBER Monetary Economics Program has been devoted to documenting and explaining these dynamic responses to monetary benefits.
One approach to this empirical issue is to study particular episodes of disinflationary policy. A classic study following this approach is that by Christina Romer and David Romer. Following in the footsteps of NBER researchers Milton Friedman and Anna Schwartz and their renowned Monetary History of the United States, the Romers read through the minutes of the meetings of the Federal Open Market Committee to identify episodes in which Fed policy switched toward a tougher stance against inflation. They find that after each of these so-called Romer dates, the economy experienced a substantial decline in production and employment. The Romers interpret their findings as strong evidence for the effect of monetary policy on real economic activity.

BtownBeers · January 19th, 2007, 02:33 PM

That work ssigs?

BaldBil · January 19th, 2007, 02:43 PM

I got a headache halfway through.

ssigman · January 19th, 2007, 03:47 PM

taken straight from beer's book i see...well done rusty

January 18th, 2007, 03:30 PM	#1
sr_news Kent Brockman Join Date: 12-05-2004 Posts: 77,917 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	Report: Ex-NFL player's suicide linked to brain damage A leading forensic pathologist told The New York Times that brain damage suffered by former NFL defensive back Andre Waters may have led to his depression and ultimately his suicide. More... (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2734941&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines) Full Article __________________ <--- Thats the finger I use on Meik most nights.

January 19th, 2007, 08:18 AM	#3
BtownBeers Skull Fucker Wannabeeee! Join Date: 08-23-2004 Location: In Mrs. Jays Pants! Posts: 23,918 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	The Benefits right now (money, job) and even some players love of their respective game I think outweighs the consequences later for most and possibly the limited amount of serious cases that involve players and death from the head trauma. __________________ As someone who has been on both ends of a loaded weapon I can only wish you well in your idealized little vision of what the world should be; I will continue to deal the world as it really is. -BaldBil

January 19th, 2007, 12:59 PM	#5
BtownBeers Skull Fucker Wannabeeee! Join Date: 08-23-2004 Location: In Mrs. Jays Pants! Posts: 23,918 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	You're absolutley right, however prime earning years for them, some even just one of those years typically exceeds most peoples lifetime income. __________________ As someone who has been on both ends of a loaded weapon I can only wish you well in your idealized little vision of what the world should be; I will continue to deal the world as it really is. -BaldBil

January 19th, 2007, 02:01 PM	#8
Rusty27 Good ol' Rocky Top;Rocky Top,Tennessee Join Date: 07-15-2004 Location: Knoxville,Tenn. Posts: 31,472 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	According to textbook theory, changes in monetary benefits influence employment and production in the short run but, in the long run, affect only prices and inflation rates. When an owner slows the rate of money growth, for instance, the end result will be a lower rate of inflation, but the transition to lower inflation can take some time, and it often entails a period of depressed economic activity, including higher unemployment. This short-run tradeoff between inflation and unemployment is often called the Phillips curve, after the classic study of this topic by A. W. Phillips in the 1950s. Much research in the NBER Monetary Economics Program has been devoted to documenting and explaining these dynamic responses to monetary benefits. One approach to this empirical issue is to study particular episodes of disinflationary policy. A classic study following this approach is that by Christina Romer and David Romer. Following in the footsteps of NBER researchers Milton Friedman and Anna Schwartz and their renowned Monetary History of the United States, the Romers read through the minutes of the meetings of the Federal Open Market Committee to identify episodes in which Fed policy switched toward a tougher stance against inflation. They find that after each of these so-called Romer dates, the economy experienced a substantial decline in production and employment. The Romers interpret their findings as strong evidence for the effect of monetary policy on real economic activity. __________________

January 19th, 2007, 02:33 PM	#9
BtownBeers Skull Fucker Wannabeeee! Join Date: 08-23-2004 Location: In Mrs. Jays Pants! Posts: 23,918 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	That work ssigs? __________________ As someone who has been on both ends of a loaded weapon I can only wish you well in your idealized little vision of what the world should be; I will continue to deal the world as it really is. -BaldBil

January 18th, 2007, 06:50 PM	#2
BaldBil illegitimi non carborundum Join Date: 06-15-2006 Location: Salem, MA Posts: 5,771 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	This is not a surprise really, there have been others over the years most recent in memory was Mike Webster the ex-Steelers center. Concussions are bad news especially once you get into the three or more stage. I have had more than my share and still get dizzy spells and ocassional moments of confusion in certain situations(go ahead and have your fun here). I am always amazed when guys like Aikman, Lindros and others keep on playing their respective sports after multiple TBI's.

January 19th, 2007, 02:00 PM	#7
BaldBil illegitimi non carborundum Join Date: 06-15-2006 Location: Salem, MA Posts: 5,771 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	Which is why I feel they are putting the cart before the horse sometimes.

January 19th, 2007, 02:43 PM	#10
BaldBil illegitimi non carborundum Join Date: 06-15-2006 Location: Salem, MA Posts: 5,771 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0	I got a headache halfway through.

January 19th, 2007, 03:49 PM	#12
ssigman <----the rant's sean avery