The Refs

Marc Jimenez · January 23rd, 2007, 04:06 PM

Before I begin, I should tell you I'm not a big fan of the New England Patriots or the Indianapolis Colts. In fact, I’m not even a big football fan, but in any event, after watching one of the greatest AFC Championship games in recent memory, (a game that saw the Colts overcome an 18-point deficit...
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JGAC · January 23rd, 2007, 06:38 PM

I think the refs did a fine job in the game, especially noted when there was that TD pass by the Pats into the endzone where the heels were elevated above the line, but not on them. The two refs got together to confirm what each saw, then made the ruling.

I don't remember correctly, but was the defensive pass interference on Hobbs the one where he just jumped up in the air?

nhannaford · January 24th, 2007, 05:11 AM

the only call I had a problem was on the non-call on the pass interference in the fourth quarter in the endzone, That was rediculous. it would have put the pats on the one, but other than that I had no huge problems with the officiating.

BtownBeers · January 24th, 2007, 07:18 AM

If conspiracy theories were truely implemented the Saints, not the Bears would be in the super bowl.

I think the refs did a fine job in this game, no one is perfect, and I do think that sometimes...especially in the playoffs they should let them play...but that is neither here nor there.

The roughing the passer call, could have been construed (sp?) as weak, but it was the blow to the head, which no matter how soft or hard it is that is a penalty clearly in the rules of the game.

The pass interference call, if I am thinking of the right one was when the defender jumped as the ball was coming without looking back at the ball?? If that is the one, that is absolutley a penalty, always has been and always will be, the defender is not allowed to disrupt the play without knowledge of where the ball actually is by blocking the receivers view of the play.

People need to have the correct facts in hand when making such remarks.

NICKinDALLAS · January 24th, 2007, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BtownBeers

The pass interference call, if I am thinking of the right one was when the defender jumped as the ball was coming without looking back at the ball?? If that is the one, that is absolutley a penalty, always has been and always will be, the defender is not allowed to disrupt the play without knowledge of where the ball actually is by blocking the receivers view of the play.

People need to have the correct facts in hand when making such remarks.

//Laughs
You are right Beers. People should have their facts straight...
From NFL.com:
There is no such thing as face-guarding in the National Football League. It is legal to face-guard a receiver. In order to have pass interference you must have contact. Any act without contact is not considered a foul.
http://www.nfl.com/fans/rulesschool120501.html

BtownBeers · January 24th, 2007, 09:16 AM

Ouch lol.

Though in my defense, this was a rule in the NFL for a long time that has since been removed, the post I read the posted rules on was obviously taken from the old rules. I'll see if I can find the post. However this is not the first time in recent memory that the officials have called this penalty, maybe they need to re-read their own rule books too.

BtownJay · January 24th, 2007, 09:21 AM

Interesting, i have seen that "face guarding" interference called pretty often actually. And none of the announcers seem to ever say its not a penalty. Looks like everyone needs to learn the rule book.

NICKinDALLAS · January 24th, 2007, 09:25 AM

Without question they do.

NICKinDALLAS · January 24th, 2007, 09:35 AM

BTW
I thought that it was a penalty during the game as well. Not until Monday that I found out that it wasn't.

Just didn't want to be all 'Alex Trebec' on Beers.

BtownBeers · January 24th, 2007, 09:43 AM

Well considering it appears most of us recognize it as a penalty including the refs and apparently the coaches.....how in the hell has it fallen through the cracks for this long?

Though the rules do say, Pass Interference is defined as this this and this, but is not limited too. Is that the loop hole?

BaldBil · January 24th, 2007, 11:26 AM

It was a great game to watch. All games have questionable calls. The interference was a bad call, the roughing the passer a correct interpertation of a badly written rule. Call aside, the Colts made the plays that had to be made more often than the Patriots did.

JGAC · January 24th, 2007, 08:36 PM

So it wasn't?

NICKinDALLAS · January 24th, 2007, 09:37 PM

Should not have been.

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January 23rd, 2007, 06:38 PM	#2
JGAC Join Date: 05-09-2003 Location: North End, Boston Posts: 6,079	I think the refs did a fine job in the game, especially noted when there was that TD pass by the Pats into the endzone where the heels were elevated above the line, but not on them. The two refs got together to confirm what each saw, then made the ruling. I don't remember correctly, but was the defensive pass interference on Hobbs the one where he just jumped up in the air?

January 24th, 2007, 05:11 AM	#3
nhannaford Join Date: 06-04-2004 Location: Raynham, MA Posts: 1,348	the only call I had a problem was on the non-call on the pass interference in the fourth quarter in the endzone, That was rediculous. it would have put the pats on the one, but other than that I had no huge problems with the officiating.

January 24th, 2007, 07:18 AM	#4
BtownBeers Join Date: 08-23-2004 Location: In Mrs. Jays Pants! Posts: 19,652	If conspiracy theories were truely implemented the Saints, not the Bears would be in the super bowl. I think the refs did a fine job in this game, no one is perfect, and I do think that sometimes...especially in the playoffs they should let them play...but that is neither here nor there. The roughing the passer call, could have been construed (sp?) as weak, but it was the blow to the head, which no matter how soft or hard it is that is a penalty clearly in the rules of the game. The pass interference call, if I am thinking of the right one was when the defender jumped as the ball was coming without looking back at the ball?? If that is the one, that is absolutley a penalty, always has been and always will be, the defender is not allowed to disrupt the play without knowledge of where the ball actually is by blocking the receivers view of the play. People need to have the correct facts in hand when making such remarks.

January 24th, 2007, 09:16 AM	#6
BtownBeers Join Date: 08-23-2004 Location: In Mrs. Jays Pants! Posts: 19,652	Ouch lol. Though in my defense, this was a rule in the NFL for a long time that has since been removed, the post I read the posted rules on was obviously taken from the old rules. I'll see if I can find the post. However this is not the first time in recent memory that the officials have called this penalty, maybe they need to re-read their own rule books too.

January 24th, 2007, 09:21 AM	#7
BtownJay Join Date: 07-14-2004 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 26,452	Interesting, i have seen that "face guarding" interference called pretty often actually. And none of the announcers seem to ever say its not a penalty. Looks like everyone needs to learn the rule book.

January 24th, 2007, 09:25 AM	#8
NICKinDALLAS Join Date: 11-24-2004 Location: Um, really? Posts: 2,269	Without question they do.

January 24th, 2007, 09:35 AM	#9
NICKinDALLAS Join Date: 11-24-2004 Location: Um, really? Posts: 2,269	BTW I thought that it was a penalty during the game as well. Not until Monday that I found out that it wasn't. Just didn't want to be all 'Alex Trebec' on Beers.

January 24th, 2007, 09:43 AM	#10
BtownBeers Join Date: 08-23-2004 Location: In Mrs. Jays Pants! Posts: 19,652	Well considering it appears most of us recognize it as a penalty including the refs and apparently the coaches.....how in the hell has it fallen through the cracks for this long? Though the rules do say, Pass Interference is defined as this this and this, but is not limited too. Is that the loop hole?

January 24th, 2007, 11:26 AM	#11
BaldBil Join Date: 06-15-2006 Location: Salem, MA Posts: 4,785	It was a great game to watch. All games have questionable calls. The interference was a bad call, the roughing the passer a correct interpertation of a badly written rule. Call aside, the Colts made the plays that had to be made more often than the Patriots did.

January 24th, 2007, 08:36 PM	#12
JGAC Join Date: 05-09-2003 Location: North End, Boston Posts: 6,079	So it wasn't?

January 24th, 2007, 09:37 PM	#13
NICKinDALLAS Join Date: 11-24-2004 Location: Um, really? Posts: 2,269	Should not have been.

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