Coach of the Year?

Dmon3k · December 25th, 2007, 09:34 PM

According to wikipedia (I know not the most reliable source in the world but I'm too lazy to look anywhere else) the coach of the year award is given to to the NFL head coach who has done the most outstanding job of working with the talent he has at his disposal. Would going 16-0 with the talent at his disposal merit that for Belichick or does cameragate make him unworthy. Or would it be Jack Del Rio who got rid of his starting qb a week before the season and still fielded a 10+ win team. Romeo Crennel, taking a Browns team that was an afterthought last season, and having them on the verge of making the playoffs. Mike McCarthy for winning the division with a very young team and a rejuvanted Brett Favre. Tony Dungy for keeping the Colts on track and in the playoffs despite losing his best pass rusher and receiver.

I personally think that if they go undefeated Bill Belichick should get it because its a feat that's only been done one other time and in this day and age I say its more impressive because of things like salary cap and blah blah blah. Now I know some would argue he was expected to with the talent he had on that team. However, according to the criteria for the award don't you almost have to chose him still? I mean the pats could have just as easily lost 2 or 3 games but for whatever reason they didn't and here they are the verge on becoming the second ever undefeated team. They were expected to win, but not like they've been doing. However I could also it going to any of the other coaches I mentioned earlier. Anyway my question to you the members of Sportsrant is who do you think should be coach of the year and why?

ssigmanstinks · December 26th, 2007, 10:04 AM

as much as I HATE to say it, you can't really not give it to a coach that goes 16-0..... hopefully the cheating, fine & loss of draft pick play into the voting so someone else gets it.

Rusty27 · December 26th, 2007, 10:05 AM

By definition,I have to go with Jack Del Rio.
No mention of Bobby Petrino?,heh heh.

BtownJay · December 26th, 2007, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty17

By definition,I have to go with Jack Del Rio.

I agree with this. I'd give it to Del Rio as well... with McCarthy as a close 2nd place finisher.

BtownBeers · December 26th, 2007, 10:19 AM

I like Del Rio in this situation as well and also like McCarthy as well. Hard not to give it to dick licker but with a cheating scandal to start the year how can you reward that and look past the talent around him. I think a LOT of coaches could take that Pats team to an unbeaten season given the talent.

BaldBil · December 26th, 2007, 10:36 AM

The patriots have gone into every game this season with a bullseys on their back. As the season progressed that bullseye got bigger. Belichick kept them focused and redy no matter the opponent. Del Rio has done a great job and Crennel also as have Phillips in Dallas(to my surprise). Award goes to Belichick.

ssigmanstinks · December 26th, 2007, 10:39 AM

great point beers that many could have taken that team to a perfect record, didn't think of it that way. I vote Del Rio also.

BaldBil · December 26th, 2007, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ssigmanstinks

great point beers that many could have taken that team to a perfect record, didn't think of it that way. I vote Del Rio also.

Many could have? Then why haven't there been more undefeated teams. As good as the Pats are the 49's and Cowboys of years past were as good if not better. They had had pretty good coach's also and did not go undefeated.

ssigman · December 26th, 2007, 12:39 PM

herm edwards should get it...he's managed to destroy 2 franchises now

BtownBeers · December 26th, 2007, 01:18 PM

Bil, that team is stacked on both sides of the ball...I think a lot of coaches could have taken that team to an undefeated season...no way to ever tell...just opinion vs opinion. He's a great coach one of the best all time but with the talent on that team they made him look better than he made them play better.

BaldBil · December 26th, 2007, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BtownBeers

Bil, that team is stacked on both sides of the ball...I think a lot of coaches could have taken that team to an undefeated season...no way to ever tell...just opinion vs opinion. He's a great coach one of the best all time but with the talent on that team they made him look better than he made them play better.

Yes they are stacked. Are they better than Walsh's or Seiferts SF teams or Johnsons Cowboys? Those teams were no undefeated. Credit, like it or not needs to be given here to Belichick.

BtownBeers · December 26th, 2007, 01:43 PM

Bil...NO...let the Pats be the Pats they won everything else and broke all the records possible...hell they may never lose a game again till this team is dismantled or they all die of old age...another coach deserves to win this working with much less.

BaldBil · December 26th, 2007, 01:50 PM

Can't go along with that. IF they go undefeated he has to win.

NICKinDALLAS · December 26th, 2007, 01:57 PM

Again, by the definition given, it would have to go to Del Rio. Why is it, Bil, that if they lose on Saturday he would not be worthy but if he wins he would? It's not like he turned around a misfit team, they've been solid for years now.
More with less = Jack Del Rio

BtownBeers · December 26th, 2007, 02:01 PM

Of course Nicks post 1,666 I agree with completely which agreeing with him ever is bad enough...ugh...the world may in fact end today.

December 25th, 2007, 09:34 PM	#1
Dmon3k Join Date: 08-28-2004 Location: The ROC Posts: 76	Coach of the Year? According to wikipedia (I know not the most reliable source in the world but I'm too lazy to look anywhere else) the coach of the year award is given to to the NFL head coach who has done the most outstanding job of working with the talent he has at his disposal. Would going 16-0 with the talent at his disposal merit that for Belichick or does cameragate make him unworthy. Or would it be Jack Del Rio who got rid of his starting qb a week before the season and still fielded a 10+ win team. Romeo Crennel, taking a Browns team that was an afterthought last season, and having them on the verge of making the playoffs. Mike McCarthy for winning the division with a very young team and a rejuvanted Brett Favre. Tony Dungy for keeping the Colts on track and in the playoffs despite losing his best pass rusher and receiver. I personally think that if they go undefeated Bill Belichick should get it because its a feat that's only been done one other time and in this day and age I say its more impressive because of things like salary cap and blah blah blah. Now I know some would argue he was expected to with the talent he had on that team. However, according to the criteria for the award don't you almost have to chose him still? I mean the pats could have just as easily lost 2 or 3 games but for whatever reason they didn't and here they are the verge on becoming the second ever undefeated team. They were expected to win, but not like they've been doing. However I could also it going to any of the other coaches I mentioned earlier. Anyway my question to you the members of Sportsrant is who do you think should be coach of the year and why?

December 26th, 2007, 10:04 AM	#2
ssigmanstinks Join Date: 12-28-2004 Posts: 2,676	as much as I HATE to say it, you can't really not give it to a coach that goes 16-0..... hopefully the cheating, fine & loss of draft pick play into the voting so someone else gets it.

December 26th, 2007, 10:05 AM	#3
Rusty27 Join Date: 07-15-2004 Location: Knoxville,Tenn. Posts: 27,904	By definition,I have to go with Jack Del Rio. No mention of Bobby Petrino?,heh heh.

December 26th, 2007, 10:19 AM	#5
BtownBeers Join Date: 08-23-2004 Location: In Mrs. Jays Pants! Posts: 21,572	I like Del Rio in this situation as well and also like McCarthy as well. Hard not to give it to dick licker but with a cheating scandal to start the year how can you reward that and look past the talent around him. I think a LOT of coaches could take that Pats team to an unbeaten season given the talent.

December 26th, 2007, 10:36 AM	#6
BaldBil Join Date: 06-15-2006 Location: Salem, MA Posts: 5,223	The patriots have gone into every game this season with a bullseys on their back. As the season progressed that bullseye got bigger. Belichick kept them focused and redy no matter the opponent. Del Rio has done a great job and Crennel also as have Phillips in Dallas(to my surprise). Award goes to Belichick.

December 26th, 2007, 10:39 AM	#7
ssigmanstinks Join Date: 12-28-2004 Posts: 2,676	great point beers that many could have taken that team to a perfect record, didn't think of it that way. I vote Del Rio also.

December 26th, 2007, 12:39 PM	#9
ssigman Join Date: 03-15-2004 Posts: 27,221	herm edwards should get it...he's managed to destroy 2 franchises now

December 26th, 2007, 01:18 PM	#10
BtownBeers Join Date: 08-23-2004 Location: In Mrs. Jays Pants! Posts: 21,572	Bil, that team is stacked on both sides of the ball...I think a lot of coaches could have taken that team to an undefeated season...no way to ever tell...just opinion vs opinion. He's a great coach one of the best all time but with the talent on that team they made him look better than he made them play better.

December 26th, 2007, 01:43 PM	#12
BtownBeers Join Date: 08-23-2004 Location: In Mrs. Jays Pants! Posts: 21,572	Bil...NO...let the Pats be the Pats they won everything else and broke all the records possible...hell they may never lose a game again till this team is dismantled or they all die of old age...another coach deserves to win this working with much less.

December 26th, 2007, 01:50 PM	#13
BaldBil Join Date: 06-15-2006 Location: Salem, MA Posts: 5,223	Can't go along with that. IF they go undefeated *he has* to win.

December 26th, 2007, 01:57 PM	#14
NICKinDALLAS Join Date: 11-24-2004 Location: Um, really? Posts: 2,372	Again, by the definition given, it would have to go to Del Rio. Why is it, Bil, that if they lose on Saturday he would not be worthy but if he wins he would? It's not like he turned around a misfit team, they've been solid for years now. More with less = Jack Del Rio

December 26th, 2007, 02:01 PM	#15
BtownBeers Join Date: 08-23-2004 Location: In Mrs. Jays Pants! Posts: 21,572	Of course Nicks post 1,666 I agree with completely which agreeing with him ever is bad enough...ugh...the world may in fact end today.