Hagler :vs: Mugabi 1986

BaldBil · March 7th, 2008, 06:52 AM

I watched this on fight on ESPN Classics last night. For some reason I had forgotten what a great fight this was and just how great Marvin had been.

Mugabi brought everything he had and hit Hagler with really good shots throughout the fight. Hagler never backed up from a punch. Mugabi moved back a few times but always managed to answer the shots and the bell. In the 11th, when a Hagler flurry moved Mugabi back across the ring I think he went down from sheer exaustion as opposed to the direct effects of the punches.

They both threw lots of body shots and reports had each of them urinating blood for days afterwards.

BtownJay · March 7th, 2008, 08:10 AM

Nice! Yep, both ended up in the hospital, pissing blood. Mugabi started his career with 26 straight KO's before losing to Hagler. I read a nice writeup afterwards saying they thing that is a big factor in why Mugabi lost. In his first 26 fights, he had only even been past 6 rounds one time. They questioned his stamina since he ended all his fights early.

After that fight, Mugabi was KO'd in the 1st round, 1st round, and 3rd round in three major title fights after the Hagler fight.

BaldBil · March 7th, 2008, 09:53 AM

Although this is a hard thing to judge, I counted about a dozen kidney shots between both fighters and at least two liver shots by Hagler. If you remember the "Golder Boy" DeLoya woudn't get up after being on the receiving end of a liver shot a couple of years ago.

Where have all the fighters gone?

BtownJay · March 7th, 2008, 10:04 AM

Oscar DeLa Hoya was KO'd from a crushing Bernard Hopkins liver shot. It was a perfect punch.

But there are stil alot of "fighters" out there... you just have to know where to look. This past weekend, Israel Vazquez and Raphael Marquez just finished their 3rd fight against each other. Its going to go down as one of the best all time trilogies in boxing history. These guys didn't stop throwing in any fight. One KO victory for each fighter in the first two fights and then a close SD win for Vazquez in the 3rd.

And coming up soon, Manny Pacquaio will fight Juan Manuel Marquez which promises to be all action like their 1st fight was. In the first fight, Pacquaio dropped Marquez 3 times in the first round... and Marquez battled all the way back to earn a draw.

BtownJay · March 7th, 2008, 10:44 AM

Oh, Bil, I don't know if you have access to HBO at all... but if you are looking for fighters, tomorrow night on HBO at 9:30, they will have two great fights.

Sam Peter vs. Oleg Maskaev for the WBC Heavyweight title. 80% of all of Maskaev's fights end in KO's and 74% of Peters fights end in KO's. These two big boys are going to bang. And...

Juan Diaz vs. Nate Campbell fight for the IBF lightweight title. Two more guys who stand toe to toe and let their hands go. Not near as big (around 130 lbs) but they are all action fighters.

Me = excited!

BtownJay · March 7th, 2008, 10:45 AM

Peter = 250, Maskaev = 243.

ssigman · March 7th, 2008, 11:15 AM

i remember the de la hoya/hopkins punch...i couldn't believe he didn't get up but then again i've never been hit that hard in the liver

BtownJay · March 7th, 2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ssigman

i remember the de la hoya/hopkins punch...i couldn't believe he didn't get up but then again i've never been hit that hard in the liver

Its a short term thing that pretty much cripples you. Its one of those things that the boxer is PISSED about afterwards because you feel fine afterwards. Its a delayed reaction thing too, you get hit... 3 seconds later you are in such pain that you can't stand up straight. About 30 seconds later it goes away, and you are ready to fight.

ssigman · March 7th, 2008, 11:36 AM

how would you know?

BaldBil · March 7th, 2008, 11:42 AM

I know there are still real men out there in the fight game, just being rhetorical. I miss Mickey Ward and Arturo Gatti.

BtownJay · March 7th, 2008, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ssigman

how would you know?

I watch and read alot about boxing. Many boxers have talked about it.

I have the Ward/Gatti trilogy on VHS Bil. I am a huge fan of both of those guys, so naturally, thats my personal favorite trilogy of all time.

ssigman · March 7th, 2008, 12:54 PM

reading is for queers

BaldBil · March 7th, 2008, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssigman

reading is for queers

Are you reading this ssigs?

ssigman · March 7th, 2008, 01:07 PM

its a joke...i love to read

and listen ya midget troll who owns the shanty and gets in trouble for selling liquor to minors and transexuals without a license....keep it up and i'll send jgac over to the shanty to bore you to death with stupid school stories

BaldBil · March 7th, 2008, 01:25 PM

Do I need a license to sell liquor to minor transexuals?

March 7th, 2008, 06:52 AM	#1
BaldBil Join Date: 06-15-2006 Location: Salem, MA Posts: 5,440	Hagler :vs: Mugabi 1986 I watched this on fight on ESPN Classics last night. For some reason I had forgotten what a great fight this was and just how great Marvin had been. Mugabi brought everything he had and hit Hagler with really good shots throughout the fight. Hagler never backed up from a punch. Mugabi moved back a few times but always managed to answer the shots and the bell. In the 11th, when a Hagler flurry moved Mugabi back across the ring I think he went down from sheer exaustion as opposed to the direct effects of the punches. They both threw lots of body shots and reports had each of them urinating blood for days afterwards.

March 7th, 2008, 08:10 AM	#2
BtownJay Join Date: 07-14-2004 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 28,781	Nice! Yep, both ended up in the hospital, pissing blood. Mugabi started his career with 26 straight KO's before losing to Hagler. I read a nice writeup afterwards saying they thing that is a big factor in why Mugabi lost. In his first 26 fights, he had only even been past 6 rounds one time. They questioned his stamina since he ended all his fights early. After that fight, Mugabi was KO'd in the 1st round, 1st round, and 3rd round in three major title fights after the Hagler fight.

March 7th, 2008, 09:53 AM	#3
BaldBil Join Date: 06-15-2006 Location: Salem, MA Posts: 5,440	Although this is a hard thing to judge, I counted about a dozen kidney shots between both fighters and at least two liver shots by Hagler. If you remember the "Golder Boy" DeLoya woudn't get up after being on the receiving end of a liver shot a couple of years ago. Where have all the fighters gone?

March 7th, 2008, 10:04 AM	#4
BtownJay Join Date: 07-14-2004 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 28,781	Oscar DeLa Hoya was KO'd from a crushing Bernard Hopkins liver shot. It was a perfect punch. But there are stil alot of "fighters" out there... you just have to know where to look. This past weekend, Israel Vazquez and Raphael Marquez just finished their 3rd fight against each other. Its going to go down as one of the best all time trilogies in boxing history. These guys didn't stop throwing in any fight. One KO victory for each fighter in the first two fights and then a close SD win for Vazquez in the 3rd. And coming up soon, Manny Pacquaio will fight Juan Manuel Marquez which promises to be all action like their 1st fight was. In the first fight, Pacquaio dropped Marquez 3 times in the first round... and Marquez battled all the way back to earn a draw.

March 7th, 2008, 10:44 AM	#5
BtownJay Join Date: 07-14-2004 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 28,781	Oh, Bil, I don't know if you have access to HBO at all... but if you are looking for fighters, tomorrow night on HBO at 9:30, they will have two great fights. Sam Peter vs. Oleg Maskaev for the WBC Heavyweight title. 80% of all of Maskaev's fights end in KO's and 74% of Peters fights end in KO's. These two big boys are going to bang. And... Juan Diaz vs. Nate Campbell fight for the IBF lightweight title. Two more guys who stand toe to toe and let their hands go. Not near as big (around 130 lbs) but they are all action fighters. Me = excited!

March 7th, 2008, 10:45 AM	#6
BtownJay Join Date: 07-14-2004 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 28,781	Peter = 250, Maskaev = 243.

March 7th, 2008, 11:15 AM	#7
ssigman Join Date: 03-15-2004 Posts: 27,970	i remember the de la hoya/hopkins punch...i couldn't believe he didn't get up but then again i've never been hit that hard in the liver

March 7th, 2008, 11:36 AM	#9
ssigman Join Date: 03-15-2004 Posts: 27,970	how would you know?

March 7th, 2008, 11:42 AM	#10
BaldBil Join Date: 06-15-2006 Location: Salem, MA Posts: 5,440	I know there are still real men out there in the fight game, just being rhetorical. I miss Mickey Ward and Arturo Gatti.

March 7th, 2008, 12:54 PM	#12
ssigman Join Date: 03-15-2004 Posts: 27,970	reading is for queers

March 7th, 2008, 01:07 PM	#14
ssigman Join Date: 03-15-2004 Posts: 27,970	its a joke...i love to read and listen ya midget troll who owns the shanty and gets in trouble for selling liquor to minors and transexuals without a license....keep it up and i'll send jgac over to the shanty to bore you to death with stupid school stories

March 7th, 2008, 01:25 PM	#15
BaldBil Join Date: 06-15-2006 Location: Salem, MA Posts: 5,440	Do I need a license to sell liquor to minor transexuals?