Big XII Championship: Colorado vs. Oklahoma

jtg33 · November 28th, 2004, 11:35 PM

The Colorado Buffaloes (7-4) will take on the Oklahoma Sooners (11-0) on Saturday, December 4 for the 2004 Big XII Championship in Kansas City. Colorado got in with help from Missouri - the Tigers beat Iowa State in OT to give the North title to the Buffs - while Oklahoma won the South title outright by pretty much pummelling everybody in sight.

I hate to ask it, but I need predictions for this game. Will Oklahoma continue its winning ways and claim a spot in the Orange Bowl? Will Colorado pull a huge upset and throw another wrench into the BCS? What will happen?

I have to be faithful to my team on this one. I think it will be the biggest challenge Coloraod has faced in a long time, but if they play the way they have been the past few weeks, keep throwing all they have at the Sooners, and never let up, it's remotely possible that they could win.

CU 24, Oklahoma 21.

OriginalBob · November 29th, 2004, 04:55 AM

Congrats on your team making it!!!
But I don't give them much chance.
OU 45 CU 10

HuskerPower · November 29th, 2004, 01:09 PM

Oklahoma 38
Colorado 3

BtownJay · November 29th, 2004, 01:11 PM

Yeah, sorry Jtg... this one won't end up as a W in the Colorado record book.

In a way i am rooting for OU... anything to screw the BCS makes me very happy, and the more teams undefeated the better.

jtg33 · November 29th, 2004, 04:08 PM

Colorado getting in could be an even bigger problem though. They'll go to a BCS bowl, and Oklahoma - with their 11-1 record - would go to one too. That would bump Texas out of the picture, which would cause them to whine some more, and Oklahoma would still be getting tons of first-place votes, and they would probably stay #2, causing a big outcry from a potentially undefeated Auburn team.

As for 38-3... Ouch... But that's probably much closer to the truth than my prediction... lol.

BtownJay · November 29th, 2004, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jtg33

Colorado getting in could be an even bigger problem though. They'll go to a BCS bowl, and Oklahoma - with their 11-1 record - would go to one too. That would bump Texas out of the picture, which would cause them to whine some more, and Oklahoma would still be getting tons of first-place votes, and they would probably stay #2, causing a big outcry from a potentially undefeated Auburn team.

As for 38-3... Ouch... But that's probably much closer to the truth than my prediction... lol.

The BCS doesn't care whether Texas gets #6 or #7. If there are 3 major undefeated teams there is a big problem because one team gets screwed out of a national championship chance, which is MUCH bigger than a BCS bid. OU will not end up #2 in the BCS if they lose to CU. USC and Auburn (the only 2 major undeafead teams) would then play for the national championship, and the BCS will say it worked again.

jtg33 · November 29th, 2004, 04:19 PM

Either way, I personally don't think Texas should get into the BCS. Boise State is undefeated with their perfect 11-0 season, they have the best offense in the nation, and they play on the coolest field in all of football. While those first two should be big enough (IMHO) to get them in over the Shorthorns, the third should sway even those damned computers.

OriginalBob · November 29th, 2004, 04:37 PM

Texass won't get a BCS bid unless they move up to 4. Cal at 4 gets the bid now. Texass will have to be happy with the Cotton Bowl...

KP · November 29th, 2004, 05:09 PM

I live in Texas. I've been to a game in Norman and I've been to a game in Austin. OU fans are very, very classy. The Texas fans are as bad at winning as they are at losing. They are extremely arrogant.
I hope so much that Texas gets left out of the BCS. Did you hear Mack Brown whining? Dude, you get TWO lucky wins, one against Arkansas and one against Kansas, and you're trying to say you deserve a BCS bowl over Cal? Nice try.

OriginalBob · November 29th, 2004, 06:08 PM

Finally, someone else who's experienced the assholes that are Texass fans. Mac Brown is an Ass that talks!!! I'm sure glad that he decided to not take the OU job and stay at NC, then a year later he takes the Texass job.

Stoops might cry, but he's learned to beat Texass!!!!

Rock · December 2nd, 2004, 12:46 PM

I live in Texas and I've been to games in Austin, Dallas, Lubbock, and College Station and while fans of these other schools might be all nice and polite to each other after y'all play each other, the treatment received by Texas fans in these other places is the same arrogant crap that y'all say Texas fans give to everyone else.
As far as the BCS goes, Texas did win narrowly over Kansas and Arkansas, but Oregon dropped a pass that would have beat Cal, and they played other games close as well. What it should come down to is who beat the better teams this season, and judging by the number of Big 12 fans on this site I would have a hard time believing that any of you think Cal played a tougher schedule that UT.
As a matter of fact if that's the case then I think you should start making your strong arguments for a Auburn USC Orange bowl, because Texas and OU played pretty much the same schedule this season, so it ain't enough to get TExas in front of Cal then it shouldn't be enough to vault OU above an Auburn team that went through the SEC.

Rock · December 2nd, 2004, 12:51 PM

As far as the Big 12 championship game goes, I just don't see Colorado getting it done, but if they did what makes you think a loss to Colorado wouldn't drop OU below Texas in the BCS? Texas handled up on Colorado in Boulder and left no question marks, even with the head to head win against Texas, if this pipe dream were to come true, OU would fall to 5th at least in the BCS and be left out in the cold.................

OriginalBob · December 2nd, 2004, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock

As far as the Big 12 championship game goes, I just don't see Colorado getting it done, but if they did what makes you think a loss to Colorado wouldn't drop OU below Texas in the BCS? Texas handled up on Colorado in Boulder and left no question marks, even with the head to head win against Texas, if this pipe dream were to come true, OU would fall to 5th at least in the BCS and be left out in the cold.................

12 to 0

jtg33 · December 2nd, 2004, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock

As far as the Big 12 championship game goes, I just don't see Colorado getting it done, but if they did what makes you think a loss to Colorado wouldn't drop OU below Texas in the BCS? Texas handled up on Colorado in Boulder and left no question marks, even with the head to head win against Texas, if this pipe dream were to come true, OU would fall to 5th at least in the BCS and be left out in the cold.................

Texas has no shot of getting into the BCS if Oklahoma loses on Saturday. Remember how last year Kansas State beat Oklahoma in the Big XII title game and Oklahoma still went to the BCS Championship game and Texas still got left out? That's exactly what would happen again this year.

If it didn't happen last year, then what makes you think it would happen this year?

BtownJay · December 3rd, 2004, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jtg33

Texas has no shot of getting into the BCS if Oklahoma loses on Saturday. Remember how last year Kansas State beat Oklahoma in the Big XII title game and Oklahoma still went to the BCS Championship game and Texas still got left out? That's exactly what would happen again this year.

If it didn't happen last year, then what makes you think it would happen this year?

Ummm... did you forget that Auburn is still undefeated? The BCS championship game would be USC v Auburn (unless Auburn loses to Tenn.). Oklahoma would not be in over another undefeated team.

BTW... I remember the time when the Raiders beat the Broncos and made Champ Bailey their bitch. That is all.

November 28th, 2004, 11:35 PM	#1
jtg33 Join Date: 03-17-2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,487	Big XII Championship: Colorado vs. Oklahoma The Colorado Buffaloes (7-4) will take on the Oklahoma Sooners (11-0) on Saturday, December 4 for the 2004 Big XII Championship in Kansas City. Colorado got in with help from Missouri - the Tigers beat Iowa State in OT to give the North title to the Buffs - while Oklahoma won the South title outright by pretty much pummelling everybody in sight. I hate to ask it, but I need predictions for this game. Will Oklahoma continue its winning ways and claim a spot in the Orange Bowl? Will Colorado pull a huge upset and throw another wrench into the BCS? What will happen? I have to be faithful to my team on this one. I think it will be the biggest challenge Coloraod has faced in a long time, but if they play the way they have been the past few weeks, keep throwing all they have at the Sooners, and never let up, it's remotely possible that they could win. CU 24, Oklahoma 21.

November 29th, 2004, 04:55 AM	#2
OriginalBob Join Date: 08-14-2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,649	Congrats on your team making it!!! But I don't give them much chance. OU 45 CU 10 Last edited by OriginalBob; November 29th, 2004 at 04:37 PM.

November 29th, 2004, 01:09 PM	#3
HuskerPower Join Date: 01-17-2003 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,163	Oklahoma 38 Colorado 3

November 29th, 2004, 01:11 PM	#4
BtownJay Join Date: 07-14-2004 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 28,016	Yeah, sorry Jtg... this one won't end up as a W in the Colorado record book. In a way i am rooting for OU... anything to screw the BCS makes me very happy, and the more teams undefeated the better.

November 29th, 2004, 04:08 PM	#5
jtg33 Join Date: 03-17-2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,487	Colorado getting in could be an even bigger problem though. They'll go to a BCS bowl, and Oklahoma - with their 11-1 record - would go to one too. That would bump Texas out of the picture, which would cause them to whine some more, and Oklahoma would still be getting tons of first-place votes, and they would probably stay #2, causing a big outcry from a potentially undefeated Auburn team. As for 38-3... Ouch... But that's probably much closer to the truth than my prediction... lol.

November 29th, 2004, 04:19 PM	#7
jtg33 Join Date: 03-17-2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,487	Either way, I personally don't think Texas should get into the BCS. Boise State is undefeated with their perfect 11-0 season, they have the best offense in the nation, and they play on the coolest field in all of football. While those first two should be big enough (IMHO) to get them in over the Shorthorns, the third should sway even those damned computers.

November 29th, 2004, 04:37 PM	#8
OriginalBob Join Date: 08-14-2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,649	Texass won't get a BCS bid unless they move up to 4. Cal at 4 gets the bid now. Texass will have to be happy with the Cotton Bowl...

November 29th, 2004, 05:09 PM	#9
KP Join Date: 07-08-2002 Posts: 1,988	I live in Texas. I've been to a game in Norman and I've been to a game in Austin. OU fans are very, very classy. The Texas fans are as bad at winning as they are at losing. They are extremely arrogant. I hope so much that Texas gets left out of the BCS. Did you hear Mack Brown whining? Dude, you get TWO lucky wins, one against Arkansas and one against Kansas, and you're trying to say you deserve a BCS bowl over Cal? Nice try.

November 29th, 2004, 06:08 PM	#10
OriginalBob Join Date: 08-14-2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,649	Finally, someone else who's experienced the assholes that are Texass fans. Mac Brown is an Ass that talks!!! I'm sure glad that he decided to not take the OU job and stay at NC, then a year later he takes the Texass job. Stoops might cry, but he's learned to beat Texass!!!!

December 2nd, 2004, 12:46 PM	#11
Rock Join Date: 07-09-2002 Posts: 375	I live in Texas and I've been to games in Austin, Dallas, Lubbock, and College Station and while fans of these other schools might be all nice and polite to each other after y'all play each other, the treatment received by Texas fans in these other places is the same arrogant crap that y'all say Texas fans give to everyone else. As far as the BCS goes, Texas did win narrowly over Kansas and Arkansas, but Oregon dropped a pass that would have beat Cal, and they played other games close as well. What it should come down to is who beat the better teams this season, and judging by the number of Big 12 fans on this site I would have a hard time believing that any of you think Cal played a tougher schedule that UT. As a matter of fact if that's the case then I think you should start making your strong arguments for a Auburn USC Orange bowl, because Texas and OU played pretty much the same schedule this season, so it ain't enough to get TExas in front of Cal then it shouldn't be enough to vault OU above an Auburn team that went through the SEC.

December 2nd, 2004, 12:51 PM	#12
Rock Join Date: 07-09-2002 Posts: 375	As far as the Big 12 championship game goes, I just don't see Colorado getting it done, but if they did what makes you think a loss to Colorado wouldn't drop OU below Texas in the BCS? Texas handled up on Colorado in Boulder and left no question marks, even with the head to head win against Texas, if this pipe dream were to come true, OU would fall to 5th at least in the BCS and be left out in the cold.................